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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:06 am 
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heres a sugestion, give the predator buggy to the "a"class points winner and give the trailing arms to the "b"class winner :idea:


there is not an A class points winner,,,just a points winner,,,4 places. The A class has money prizes for top 4 places as does the B class.

We are always seeking sponsors for prizes. If you would like to be on the committee you must participate in several workdays this year to be on the committee next year. We would love to have you in the committee.


The way it is now you have just as much of a chance to win the frame or trailing arms as anyone else does. If we put the prizes to the points winner you would have a less likely chance to win anything.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:10 am 
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i understand.It dont matter which class your in,someboddy in the b class can have more points than some body in the a class at the end of the day.


i dont see how that is gonna happen when the "a"class winner gets 100 points and the "b"class winner only gets like 40 points, do the math it aint gonna happen!!!!!

now maybe if the "b"class winner got 100 points and went down like the "a"class then yes that could happen but not like it is now :roll:


One more time in the points there is not a A class or B class it is just one.

The points is a separate thing, from the races. We divided the races so every one could come race and have a chance to win.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:51 am 
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This statement seems odd for someone that got prize money because they were in the B class:

" i agree there is no need for a class separation and "b"class points cause only a handful stand a chance in hell, it just seems awfully one sided to me"




Taken from the rules tab at the top of the page:
Championship Points

1. Each driver must be a WoodsBuggy.com member to be awarded points
2. Points awarded for Class A drivers: first 100, second 95, third 90, fourth 85.... all the way until 60 points, all other drivers in Class A get 60 points each.
3. Points awarded for Class B drivers: first 50, second 45, third 40, fourth 35.... all the way until 10 points, all other drivers in Class B get 10 points each.
4. Championship Point Winner will be determined by the Total Points from the best 4 events (at least 3 different parks)
5. Championship Points Winners will receive a Trophy and Bragging Rights (No Money)

Ridenrace and others brought up some good points. At first the committee did not want to dictate where someones gifts were distributed. We felt that was the right of the donors. But after much thought we decided to try to convince those sponsors to provide their gifts to be raffled off to all those entering regardless of Class or place. Some stipulations were put into place. You must attend and participate in at least 3 events, and be present at the finale to win.

Some of the donated items, such as a Predator frame and Chuck Jones trailing arms, will be awarded to members from either class to Anyone entering at least 3 events. Everyone will get one chance for every event they enter. Any person can get up to 8 chances . You must be present at the finale to be eligible. In addition the prize money will grow by 10% of all the previous events at the finale.


ok so all the prizes/donations will be drawed for with only people entering at least 3 events and present at the final being eligable correct? if so this seems to be a lot more fair than before.

but what exactly is the 10% going to be added to, pay out for for that days winner for each class or what?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:05 pm 
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ok so all the prizes/donations will be drawed for with only people entering at least 3 events and present at the final being eligable correct? if so this seems to be a lot more fair than before.

but what exactly is the 10% going to be added to, pay out for for that days winner for each class or what?[/quote]


The extra prizes are donated and the people that donate them tell us where they want them to go. But yes they will be a drawing for them at the last event. You will have to enter at least 3 events to be eligible for them. (there is more to come) So come to all the events you can to get entered as many times as you can.

The 10% is kept out to make the payout of A and B class bigger at the last event. And it is split between them.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:59 pm 
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Im just asking a question here now.lets say at the last event my name gets drawn first to win one of the prizes donated by these awsome people,how do you decide who gets to give there donation first or is there an order? I dont care really i was just curious because bragging rights are more important to me anyways :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:25 pm 
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i tell you what i will do.i will have a trophy made and give to the person with the highest amount of points for the B class.you can only use points from 3 events and the championship event so thats a total of 4 events you have to be at to qualify.you can only use B class points if at a race you make the A class those points dont go towards the B class championship trophy,only B class qualified points count.this way a person that has a B class buggy that travels and shows his support at least gets a trophy to show for it,and that is if the committee agrees to me doing this and then the B class would also be eligable for the drawings.i think its a win win for B and A class buggys.i will pay for the trophy myself since i hope to be the one winning it ill make it a good one lol.now is this ok,let me know what you think.chad :mrgreen:

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Sounds great Chad, now you are going to need to get that bigger engine running to win B class.

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nitro_mudder wrote:
Sounds great Chad, now you are going to need to get that bigger engine running to win B class.

im going to put a radiator on my 1641 to make it run better,lmao.chad :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:48 pm 
Do it Chad and we will see you soon.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:50 pm 
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Im just asking a question here now.lets say at the last event my name gets drawn first to win one of the prizes donated by these awsome people,how do you decide who gets to give there donation first or is there an order? I dont care really i was just curious because bragging rights are more important to me anyways :mrgreen:



When we draw I will say This is for ????? Or do you have a suggestion?


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Sounds great Chad, now you are going to need to get that bigger engine running to win B class.

im going to put a radiator on my 1641 to make it run better,lmao.chad :mrgreen:


Just drill and tap it into the valve covers, should work great! :mrgreen:

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sounds great Chad. Someone will have to pay really close attention to track and record all the points from each b class competitor from each event because the system we are using now will only track total points, because points is points. No A points or B points exist, just points.


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Them A class guys are gonna feel left out now :roll: or does this mean 3 sets of trophys,, Points trophys, A class trophys and B class trophys? I hope the A class trophy weights 50 pounds and must be bolted to the buggy :wink: And the single seater trophy is a bogger . and the 4x4 trophy is a ,,,uh nevermind

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:21 pm 
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kybuggy1 wrote:
sounds great Chad. Someone will have to pay really close attention to track and record all the points from each b class competitor from each event because the system we are using now will only track total points, because points is points. No A points or B points exist, just points.


i may be wrong but i dont think it would be too hard to keep up with the "b"class points if they started at 100 and went down like the "a"class does

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:30 pm 
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ridenrace6 wrote:
kybuggy1 wrote:
sounds great Chad. Someone will have to pay really close attention to track and record all the points from each b class competitor from each event because the system we are using now will only track total points, because points is points. No A points or B points exist, just points.


i may be wrong but i dont think it would be too hard to keep up with the "b"class points if they started at 100 and went down like the "a"class does


That would be fine if you were always in the same class. But depending on the compitition at each event some of the middle guys are going to bounce back and forth. I made it to A-class at Stoney, but got a feeling there will be more single seaters at D&K to bounce me down into the B-class.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:33 am 
ridenrace6 wrote:
kybuggy1 wrote:
sounds great Chad. Someone will have to pay really close attention to track and record all the points from each b class competitor from each event because the system we are using now will only track total points, because points is points. No A points or B points exist, just points.


i may be wrong but i dont think it would be too hard to keep up with the "b"class points if they started at 100 and went down like the "a"class does


Sounds like a good job for ridenrace to keep up with this?? Will you do it? It will not be hard.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:28 am 
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nitro_mudder wrote:
ridenrace6 wrote:
kybuggy1 wrote:
sounds great Chad. Someone will have to pay really close attention to track and record all the points from each b class competitor from each event because the system we are using now will only track total points, because points is points. No A points or B points exist, just points.


i may be wrong but i dont think it would be too hard to keep up with the "b"class points if they started at 100 and went down like the "a"class does


That would be fine if you were always in the same class. But depending on the compitition at each event some of the middle guys are going to bounce back and forth. I made it to A-class at Stoney, but got a feeling there will be more single seaters at D&K to bounce me doen into the B-class.


Exactly right. Thats why we thought it would be best to make all points just points, not to designate B class or A class points. That way no one will be limited to a certain class all the time and everyone will try their hardest at each event to get as many points as they can, NOT just to finish well in B class if they dont think they can do well in A class.

As far as giving B class winner get same points as A class winner, how is that fair at at all? That would not be fair unless A class and B class were completely seperated all year and competitors would have to stay in the same class all year, and be stuck where they qualified at in their first event. I could not win the series unless at least 10 others did not show up for the rest of the year, but I am interested in seeing where I finish out the year in points standings. If I qualified for A class at most events I enter, and B class got winner got more points than 2nd thru last in A class, then the points would reflect that they did better than me and the others who finished in the middle or lower part of A class most of the time. How would that be right? And if I qualified for B class at an event (very likely at the next event), then those points would mean nothing to my overall finish if the points were seperated by class.

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kybuggy1 wrote:
sounds great Chad. Someone will have to pay really close attention to track and record all the points from each b class competitor from each event because the system we are using now will only track total points, because points is points. No A points or B points exist, just points.


i may be wrong but i dont think it would be too hard to keep up with the "b"class points if they started at 100 and went down like the "a"class does


Sounds like a good job for ridenrace to keep up with this?? Will you do it? It will not be hard.


Sounds good to me.
But the points need to stay as they are IMO, at least for this year.


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leave the points the way they are,the classes will decide the points and if you have a B class buggy you will more than likely always be qualified in the bottom half. and as far as keeping track that would not be to hard as the names can be posted.this gives no advantage to either class or disadvantage only gives a trophy to a buggy that runs the best out of the lower class buggys.it was just an idea to try and give something to the guys who runs in the B class and spends alot of time and money to travel to at least 4 events.im sure that you could argue someone could sandbag but thats part of it i guess.if you post the names and points like you did the first event i will keep track or make a post with the points.right now there is 15 buggys in the B class that have points,they should be a few of these that will be A class buggys at some of the events and those points will not be allowed to count towards the B class trophy,and they will buggys that was in the A class at stoney that will be in the B class at other events and the points that they got at stoney in the A class dont go towards the B class trophy.but there will be buggys that will be in the B class all the time and they will have the chance to take there best 3 event points plus the championship points and have a chance to win a trophy.and if there is a tie we can do a climb off 1 run quick time wins.its just an idea but i think it would work and be a good addition to the championship event imo.but its up to the committee just let me know and i will do what ever i can to make it work.chad :mrgreen:

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Im just asking a question here now.lets say at the last event my name gets drawn first to win one of the prizes donated by these awesome people,how do you decide who gets to give there donation first or is there an order? I dont care really i was just curious because bragging rights are more important to me anyways :mrgreen:



When we draw I will say This is for ????? Or do you have a suggestion?

Well since it is a raffle,it dont really matter who gets what.Maybe give out the prizes in the order they were donated or give them out from the lowest to the highest in value.Look guys i would be tickled to death to see the guy standing next to me win a prize or a guy that really needs an item win than me.I dont want to sound like im only in this to win a prize,so however you gentleman decide to do it will be good for me.


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kybuggy1 wrote:
sounds great Chad. Someone will have to pay really close attention to track and record all the points from each b class competitor from each event because the system we are using now will only track total points, because points is points. No A points or B points exist, just points.


I hate when I am late to the party.. All this discussion about the B Class and I was on vacation.. I am the master of the B class.. I run a heavy ass 4 seater with a single carb and a car seat in the back.. I am lucky to just make it to the top of the hill much less qualify for anything.. Maybe I am crazy, but I really like the B class.. If give me something to shoot for and the hills are feasible to climb.. I would not stand a chance against the A class hills..

The goal of the B class is to let EVERYONE participate. If you want to run with the Bid Dogs and go for the big money on the A hill, please feel free to upgrade yourself into the A class.

As for the B Class Trophy.. That sounds great.. I will be glad to keep track of the B Class Points.

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