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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:12 pm 
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im thinking about getting a new one built or tryin to build it with some help and stuff like a 2332cc or so and a 5 or 6 rib and predator single seat but im tryin to figure out what it would cost to build a whole buggy so far ive figured it to be around 14,000??? is what about right to build it all new?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:55 pm 
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better off buying one already built.. you can save yourself usually 1/2 or not more.. if you look which right now you dont have to look hard, deals are everywhere to be had, but it all depends on how hardcore you go with your build. theres way to many options on a way a buggy could be built for sum 1 to give you a price on a build thats in your mind.. but with that being said yea you "could" build one for 14,000 but need to know on the extreme of the build...used parts, new low quality parts, or top of the line parts. sry for long spill but theres way to many variables..hope that helps you 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:49 am 
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i'd say i will get one thats already built there is one on this site that i want BAD if all goes well within the next few months it will be mine if he will still sell it but yeah if i do end up building one but i'll have to have help or paying someone to build me one im gonna try my best not to go with CHEAP junk parts that ware out quick :D

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Building one will nickle and dime you to death. I bought mine for about $600 I had to put countless hours and about $2500 just to get it to the point where it's semi capable. If I could go back I would just spend the $2500 on a buggy that was already built and probably have something better than what I have now.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:09 am 
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yeah i know what you mean thats about what i done with my beeline it didnt have any brakes at all nothin but the rotors no lines master cylinder nothin needed axle boots cv joint push rod tubes steering box and alot other stuff i have about 3,500 in my beeline cause the guy wanted 1,800 for it and like i said needed alot of work so we worked out a trade but i dont know who got the better deal the 4 wheeler i traded him was a 2001 model on its 2nd set of tires and stuff but we traded even cause i was wanting one so bad but i kept it at my uncles house in his garage and i just got parts for it when i could and finally got it goin a big thanks to him and tim at southern buggys and gary at davis racing but we got it all lined out and i would drive it about anywhere now

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:59 am 
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Most of yall have your buggy finished and are through but I can't seem to get there,,,I have an addiction,,,an obsession,,,I don't think I will ever get completely happy,,but I couldn't be happier either,,,dangit :?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:11 am 
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sound about like me fire bug im always finding something to change or move on mine if its not my fog lights its something else

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Most of yall have your buggy finished and are through but I can't seem to get there,,,I have an addiction,,,an obsession,,,I don't think I will ever get completely happy,,but I couldn't be happier either,,,dangit :?

buggy and finished dont think ive ever heard of that one... they dont seem to fit together very well :mrgreen:


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here are few bad ass ones for less than 14000.

http://woodsbuggy.com/forum/phpBB2/view ... f=6&t=7415
http://woodsbuggy.com/forum/phpBB2/view ... f=6&t=6611
http://www.dune-buggy.com/forsale/forsa ... ead=280910


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:49 am 
vw_brandon wrote:
im thinking about getting a new one built or tryin to build it with some help and stuff like a 2332cc or so and a 5 or 6 rib and predator single seat but im tryin to figure out what it would cost to build a whole buggy so far ive figured it to be around 14,000??? is what about right to build it all new?


I would say you could build one form $8000.00 to $2000.00 Like everyone else said it is very expensive to build one from the ground up.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:51 am 
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Most of yall have your buggy finished and are through but I can't seem to get there,,,I have an addiction,,,an obsession,,,I don't think I will ever get completely happy,,but I couldn't be happier either,,,dangit :?



Bug I was happy the day mine rolled off the assembly line.


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Most of yall have your buggy finished and are through but I can't seem to get there,,,I have an addiction,,,an obsession,,,I don't think I will ever get completely happy,,but I couldn't be happier either,,,dangit :?



Bug I was happy the day mine rolled off the assembly line.


HaHa,,,you mean popped out of the cookie cutter don't ya? :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:16 am 
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Firebug wrote:
bruce 1 wrote:
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Most of yall have your buggy finished and are through but I can't seem to get there,,,I have an addiction,,,an obsession,,,I don't think I will ever get completely happy,,but I couldn't be happier either,,,dangit :?



Bug I was happy the day mine rolled off the assembly line.


HaHa,,,you mean popped out of the cookie cutter don't ya? :roll:


Why change the ingredients when the recipe always gets the Blue Ribbon? 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:06 am 
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Your right,,I just couldn't help myself :oops:

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I'm not on the extreme side, but damn its getting expensive.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:47 pm 
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yeah i know what your saying im not one to push it to the limit all the time but i like to know i have it to get me there if i want to,
yeah its expensive it would be a few more months before i would get started though im gonna see if i stay with them first before i get into to much stuff

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Most later model cars require the 2 - O2 sensors. The front sensor (before Cat) controls the fuel ratio and the rear (after cat monitors the Catilitic convertor for functionalty. If the ECU does not see both of them it will either change the fuel ratio or go into a fault code. Some will even go into LIMP mode and not go over 2000 RPM. My Subie motor has both connected however only the rear sensor has the heater connected. Ther is a circuit in the harness that fools the ecu into thinking the cat is ok. The ecu monitors the continuity of the heaters and will throw a code if it does not see them.
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Dave here. I'm telling you right now. You CANNOT get more bang for your buck or hollar for your dollar like my buggy, (Dirtygirl).Go back to Woods Buggy Talk , then Total New Concept Buggy. Read that , then go to Pictures and Videos 3rd page back, under CHECK THIS OUT! Also 2 week ends ago at Pics and Flicks (Videos), under Riding at Leeds on the 1st page.Not bad for a motor not running too good. I finally got the big miss out of it yesterday. I learned if I only ran one O2 sensor, my plugs would foul fast(15 hours!). Passat calls for one o2 sensor b4 and one after the cat converter but I only have the B4 o2 sensor mounted on the factory exaust header,(I'm not using the cat or muffler, just an Auto Zone $7 piece of 3 inch wide tail pipe). I'm back in the game now.This motor will turn it up.I'm not that wild of a driver, but so far we have climbed everything we pointed our tires at.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:46 pm 
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As many have stated, buggy building price can be anywere in the spectrum. My first Buggy was a trade and after that I invested may more dollars into it to get it to be at least trail worthy to my satisfaction useing mostly modified OEM parts to keep it a reasonable investment. My current Buggy is a totally different situation. It was a result of breaking the first Buggy many many times. It was built with all top dollar and High quality parts. It all depends on you. If you putt thru the Woods and don't beat the crap out of your machine than a OEM parts Buggy will work. If you are an aggressive driver like myself then the OEM approch is a waste of time , Money and effort. Even with all the top qualty parts I break something every weekend I ride. So whats that tell ya! As Roy always says " buy junk and cry forever or buy the best and cry once" Well maybe twice lol. I am also like Firebug, its never done and I am never satisfied!

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You could build a nice chaindrive for that.call Mr.burns he'll get you to the top.... join the chaingang


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Dave back. I've been thru the mill with small med and large stuff.I don't want to disrespect any one's rides. I've have been doing this since 1971 with my Dad and uncles in the back yard.I have been thru financial ruin, divorce and no college for the kid because of the addiction.I'll get some close up pics and action flicks soon.I do not make Californians rich anymore.Kennedy this, Dellorto that, Scat scum,Weedle waste.I don't burn up rods and loose flywheels every year.Try finding original German bearrings today(FACTORY, NOT JUST A GERMAN NAME) even if you do, they were originally meant for a 1967 53hp-1979 65hp motor.Does your heavy duty pressure plate wear out your end-play pre-maturely? How long do your Mahle jugs last? Most car makers nitrite their cylinder walls,does Mahle? NO! They want you to buy a new set every other year.That cooling fan you are running,the cylinder walls HAVE to be a different temperature on one side than the other. Was the fan meant for 65 hp at normal driving? OR 200+ hp@6500RPM then slow down to 2000RPM while you've got a nuclear melt down going on inside. Don't let California tell you this fan is sufficient. This is where they are making your money.Do I turn my radiator fan down low at anytime? The thermostat keeps a water cooled at a constant 195degrees. Record your compression. Getting lower after every ride?Ridges at the top of the egg shaped cylinders, ring gaps up to 250 thousandths. Do you do like I did? Tell everyone you have to do family things next week end while you secretly throw new rings or jugs in?Can you hold your dipstick for more than 10 secs? The car makers are a whole lot smarter than us.I'm trying to look into the future and this is where it's at as far as economical.The Passat for example has 7 main bearings to share the load on 175 hp, verses 4 mains for 200+. Six long rods to share the load verses 4 rods.Six large valves to feed fuel and air verses 4.The oil is cooled by the water circuit inside the block. I know I'm going to get people ill at me, but I've got to share this with smart people. As the years go by, people's voices are going to get quieter and quieter as they start to listen to new ideas. I walk up to new buggys and see the same thing I had in 1985! Marty's new Soob is Absolutley Awesome.It would be great to copy also.Thanks for reading and I want to help, not offend.



ok back on the ? that he asked... this it not a w/c vs a/c ?. theres enough of those battles going around so find one of those topics 2 dispute ur ideas, concerns, pros, or cons...
not trying to be rude but ppl like what they like for diff. reasons and I peronally and im sure thers more that are tired of the hijacking :evil:


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Dave back. I've been thru the mill with small med and large stuff.I don't want to disrespect any one's rides. I've have been doing this since 1971 with my Dad and uncles in the back yard.I have been thru financial ruin, divorce and no college for the kid because of the addiction.I'll get some close up pics and action flicks soon.I do not make Californians rich anymore.Kennedy this, Dellorto that, Scat scum,Weedle waste.I don't burn up rods and loose flywheels every year.Try finding original German bearrings today(FACTORY, NOT JUST A GERMAN NAME) even if you do, they were originally meant for a 1967 53hp-1979 65hp motor.Does your heavy duty pressure plate wear out your end-play pre-maturely? How long do your Mahle jugs last? Most car makers nitrite their cylinder walls,does Mahle? NO! They want you to buy a new set every other year.That cooling fan you are running,the cylinder walls HAVE to be a different temperature on one side than the other. Was the fan meant for 65 hp at normal driving? OR 200+ hp@6500RPM then slow down to 2000RPM while you've got a nuclear melt down going on inside. Don't let California tell you this fan is sufficient. This is where they are making your money.Do I turn my radiator fan down low at anytime? The thermostat keeps a water cooled at a constant 195degrees. Record your compression. Getting lower after every ride?Ridges at the top of the egg shaped cylinders, ring gaps up to 250 thousandths. Do you do like I did? Tell everyone you have to do family things next week end while you secretly throw new rings or jugs in?Can you hold your dipstick for more than 10 secs? The car makers are a whole lot smarter than us.I'm trying to look into the future and this is where it's at as far as economical.The Passat for example has 7 main bearings to share the load on 175 hp, verses 4 mains for 200+. Six long rods to share the load verses 4 rods.Six large valves to feed fuel and air verses 4.The oil is cooled by the water circuit inside the block. I know I'm going to get people ill at me, but I've got to share this with smart people. As the years go by, people's voices are going to get quieter and quieter as they start to listen to new ideas. I walk up to new buggys and see the same thing I had in 1985! Marty's new Soob is Absolutley Awesome.It would be great to copy also.Thanks for reading and I want to help, not offend.

There is alot more to a buggy than just a motor! :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:20 am 
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aint that the truth about more to a buggy than a motor :lol: i think im gonna stick with vw's if i stay with buggys cause parts are not the cheapest but they are not the highest either and ive learned alot seems like since ive had my vw beeline but im FAR from the sharpest tool in the shed on them but i can do just about all i need to do when it comes to tweaking changing bearings and stuff but i cant adjust the valves so far but ive never tryed im gonna order a valve adjuster tool from jc whitney the next time i think they needed adjusted they have already been adjusted 2 times since febuary cause this summer its been a every weekend thing around here with some buddys from school but i try to ride ever day which i do most of the time and i can be on a strip job in less than 5 mins they are doing some work on this strip below the house some pretty good hills they are makin too

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vw_brandon wrote:
im thinking about getting a new one built or tryin to build it with some help and stuff like a 2332cc or so and a 5 or 6 rib and predator single seat but im tryin to figure out what it would cost to build a whole buggy so far ive figured it to be around 14,000??? is what about right to build it all new?


You are right in the ball park,,,unless you want to save about $4k,,,go wc,,,but you have already stated you are sticking with ac. Nobody blames you,,,,I love them too, But it sure is nice to have that option. Don't beat folks up for being innovative,,,it weren't long ago that a lot of folks wanted swing axle cause they bit, with them tires angled in ,,but crossed over cause them irs were easier to swap out. Vtreads didn't come over night cause they was crap until cut,,,thanks to those that cut tires. I got 2 grand in my tranny,,,Dave says a Donor car with engine and tranny will go for half that,,,that is informative .

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