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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:37 pm 
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ok so i got the appletree 930 kit as a trade for my 65 rat rod sedan that i parted with...but i have not done a rear install and i was looking at all the parts and feel lost :? if there is a link to a great diagram or a step by step guide that would be great!....

I am running coil overs in the rear so no tortion bars and i am looking at disc brakes from a guy here in town that are the gear-one disc brakes that he is parting with....


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Does this picture help... I copied this from VWhelp.com. They have a ton info but it can be a little hard to find..

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1-- #VTBS... *Torsion Bar--60-68 SA--21 3/4" long "Quote" $38.97
1-- #V............. Torsion Bar--65-67 Fast Back-- mm--24 11/16" long
1-- #VTBL.... Torsion Bar--68-70 IRS--22mm--26 9/16" long "Quote" $22.07
1-- #V501 300...Torsion Bars...H.D. 26mm--21 3/4" long order
1-- #V235...Torsion Bar...23.5mm...26 9/16" long "Quote" $69.97
1-- #VTBB....*Torsion Bar...T2 __-__---18.75" Long (This is used 2" wider x 3" longer Trailing Arms)
1-- #VTBBE...Torsion Bar...23 1/4"...T-2...up to 68 "Quote" $39.77

Note: Rt & Left Do not switch sides--Can use 21 3/4" bars in IRS with special spring plates.
For more information on Spring Plates and how to adjust them -> *Click
2-- #V510001..* Spring Plate Grommet--68-79--IRS Inner Knobby--1 7/8" I.D. order
2-- #V510002..* Spring Plate Grommet--68-79--IRS Outer Round--1 7/8" I.D. order
2-- #V510002...*Spring Plate Grommet--59-60--S.A. inner round--1 7/8"I.D. order
2-- #V510001...*Spring Plate Grommet--61-67--S.A. inner knobby--1 7/8" I.D. order
2-- #111 598 245E --- Spring Plate Grommets -- 69-79 (Set of 4) "Quote"

3-- #VSSP...Spring Plate (single plate)--IRS "Quote" $29.97
3-- #VDSP...Spring Plate (dual plate)--IRS "Quote" $29.97 Trailing Arm Drill Jig ->*Info
3-- #VUSP...Spring Plate...60-67--S.A. "Quote" $35.97
3-- #V4959...Spring Plate...49-59--S.A.--(use w/24 11/16" bars)
3-- #V4201...Spring Plate (dual plate)--IRS "remanufactured to use short bars". "Quote" $89.95 exchange
.. Also see this page --> *Click
-- # VM00 9544...Spring Plate retainers order $17.95

4-- #V510002...*Spring Plate Grommet--68-79--IRS Outer Round--1 7/8" ID order
4-- #V510001...*Spring Plate Grommet--50-60--S.A. outer knobby--1 7/8" I.D. order
4-- #V510001...*Spring Plate Grommet--61-67--S.A. outer knobby-- 1 7/8" I.D. order
4-- #V510003...*Spring Plate Grommet for Adj. spring plates inside-- 2" I.D. order

5-- ......................Spring Plate Caps 68-79
5-- #V009569...*Spring Plate Caps 68-79...Dual or single plate Chrome Caps "Quote" $18.95
"Quote" 10x1.5-22mm with std 17mm head used with single spring plates #102515HB $.45 each

6-- #VTAB...Trailing Arm Pivot Bolt (14x1.5mm threads) 87ft lbs. "Quote" $8.95
. . . Simple Locking tube to keep bolt in place --> *Click

7--#VUSW...Trailing Arm Bolt Washer...160 thick "Quote" $1.58
7-- ...............Trailing Arm Bolt Washe...quantity & location is used to set toe-in

8-- #211 501 121...Trailing Arm Pivot Bushings... (2-rubber & 2-Steel) "Quote" $3.97
8-- #V530020...*.Trailing Arm Pivot Bushings...Aftermarket Urethane H.D...order $17.95......Trailing Arm are also called Control Arm = Same thing...We have a Special Jig to Check if straight or bent.

9-- #113 501 504G...#VRTA...Trailing Arm--68-79 RT--(__for single plate) "Quote" recycled $69.97
9-- #113 501 503G...#VLTA...Trailing Arm--68-79 Left--(__for ingle plate) "Quote" recycled
9-- #VRTA4...Trailing Arm--4-Bolt--(Dual plate) Right "Quote" recycled $69.77 "All recycled trailing arms are checked for trueness"
9-- #VLTA4...Trailing Arm--4-Bolt--(Dual plate) Left "Quote" recycled $69.77
. . . . All recycled trailing arms are checked for trueness in our special jig before shipping. Note: We find about 60% of used trailing are bent.
......Note: There are two different bolt patterns. One for single plate and a different pattern for the Dual plates. > They are not interchangeable. Weld in pivots to convert S.A. to IRS --> *ck Trailing Arm Drill Jig ->*Info
- - - Box Arm Beef-up #VM00 3163 ( 6-pcs flat plate weld on kit ) "Quote" $47.95 or Tubular Beef up Kit -- *ck

10-- #311 501 191...*#V511110...Control Arm Rubber stop. "Quote" $9.95/2

11-- #VRS...Inner Axle spacer (Seal I.D. contacts )...1.750" O.D. x 1.184" I.D. x .394" thick
11a- #V520101...Axel Spacer 3pcs Kit ... "Quote" $21.95

12-- #113 501 315...Seal Stub Axel Inner "Quote" $1.98

13-- #VTASR...Control Arm inner snap ring 2.600" free dia. x .075" thick ( behind seal ) "Quote" $2.00

14-- #113 501 283...Inner Control Arm Axle bearing 2.440" O.D. x ____ thick "Ball Bearing" "Quote" $7.95
Note: Seal #12 must be removed so snap ring #13 can be removed in order to remove Bearings #14

15-- #VBS19...Axle Spacer between Bearings...2.240" x 1.5" O.D. x 1.190" I.D. hardened "Quote" $5.07

16-- #V113609...Plastic Emergency Brake cable holder "snaps in" "Quote" recycled $1.00

17-- #113 501 277A...Outer Control Arm Axel Bearing "Roller" "Quote" $9.95

18-- #311 598 051...Large "O" ring ( Part of Seal Kit order $3.95 )

19-- #..........................Small "O" ring ( Part of seal Kit order $3.95 )

20-- #VRBC...Bearing Cap ( several different ones ck bearing depth in cap ) order
..... Several styles available "We can Match with proper information" "Quote" recycled $8.95
Axel Seal Kit comes with 2-gaskets but only one used on Bug T-1 behind Bearing Cap

21-- #VRSS...Outer Axel Spacer (Seal surface).1.750" O.D x 1.184" I.D.- .475" thick e-recycled
21a- #V520101... Axel Spacer 3pcs Kit ... "Quote" $21.95

22-- #113 501 315...Seal Outer Stub Axle--- "Quote" $1.98 (also in seal kit #311 598 051 order $3.95 )

23-- #V1015...Bearing Cap Bolts-10x30-1.5mm-- ( 4 ) --torque to 43 ft lbs. "14mm head" "Quote" set of 4
23a-- #N12 230 2...10mm Spring Washer..."Quote"
23b-- #N------...10mm Flat Washer..."Quote"

24-- #113 501 615J...Rear IRS T-1 brake drum 4-hole. 9 1/8" ID & 2 1/2" Spline length "Quote" $30.95
24-- #211 501 615G...Rear IRS T-2 brake drum 68-70 "Quote" $57.95
24-- #311 501 615F... Rear IRS T-3 4-lug brake drum 2-pc 8/65-on 9 13/16" ID "Quote" $29.95
24-- #311 501 581... Rear IRS T-3 Rear Drum Hub. "Not Shown" with 2 1/2" Spline length "Quote" $18.95
24-- #181 501 615A... Rear IRS Thing 5-Lug Drum "Not Shown" 2 1/2" Spline order
24-- #311 501 615E... T-3 Rear 5-Lug Drum "Not Shown" 2 1/2" Spline length order $52.95
24-- #914 352 401 10...Rear Porsche Disc Brk Rotor (used on buggy 2-piece rear brakes) "Quote" $47.95 each
24a--#VBDS...Small Button head Allen Bolt that holds T-3 Drum to Hub..use 8x12-1.25mm bolt
24a- #111 601 139... Lug Bolts 12mm stock 5-Lug...... "Quote" $1.20 order
24a- #VM009566... Lug Bolts 12mm Chrome "Set of 5"... "Quote" $12.95
24a- #VM009565... Lug Bolts 12mm Long "Set of 5"... "Quote" $12.95
24a- #211 601 139... Lug Bolts 14mm stock 4-Lug... "Quote" $1.50 order
24a- #VM00 9568.... Chrome Lug Bolts 14mm 4-Lug set of (4)... "Quote" $9.95
24a- #VM702810... Lug Bolts "Press in Race Studs & Nuts 14mm" ... order $9.95/set
24b- . . . Labor to Install Race Studs $28.00 / Drum . . .with Brk Drum Purchase

25-- #311 501 221...Rear Axle Nut Flanged "Quote" $1.98 "How to remove frozen Nuts" ( use 36mm socket or 1 7/16" socket ) 24x1.5mm Torque to 217'# / 255 ft lbs. recheck in 500 miles
26-- -#N125481...Cotter Key Large "Quote" $0.20

27-- #V128015HB...Upper Shock Bolt--12x80-1.5mm--3 1/8"-- with 17mm head "Quote" $0.98
27a-- #V1215NL...Nylock 12-1.5mm self locking nut...order"Quote" $ .60

28-- #113 513 031N...Rear IRS Shock order Note: Most aftermarket rear shocks fit 1950-1977, Stock IRS rear shock has slightly more travel and wider mounting sleeve at bottom of shock for centering.
28a-- #KG5529...*KYB Gas Shock 47-79 order
28b-- Coil Over Shocks...Std Length & Long Travel for Buggy's order
28c-- #211 513 031N...Long Travel Buggy Shock 13-7/8" compressed & 23-1/4" extended order

29-- #127015HB...Lower Shock Bolt--12x70-1.5mm--2 3/4" long --17mm head "Quote"
29a-- #V1215NL...Nylock 12-1.5mm self locking nut "Quote" $0.60

30-- #VAXELT1...Rear Axle 16 3/8" long Recycled ( for standard T-1 IRS Transmission ) e-order $22.95
30-- #113 501 211...Rear Axle 16.358" or 415.50mm long (New)
30-- #V16316...Rear Axle 16 3/16" long Recycled ( 3/16" shorter then std. e-mail for availability ) "Quote" $32.95
30-- #VAXELT2...Rear Axle T-2 18 3/4" long Recycled ( for standard T-2 IRS Transmission ) "Quote" $47.95
......16 3/16" & 18 3/4" (I think these were for Auto-Tan Bugs) Let me know if this is correct.

31-- #113 501 229D...CV Bolt 12-point ( Special 8x46mm ) (6 pcs) / CV order
31a-- #113 501 229C...CV Bolt 6-point...8mm Allen...now available, often used on T2 CV's
31b-- #VM00 5796...CV Tool to remove bolts...12pt 8mm for 3/8" ratchet "Quote" $12.95
31c-- #VM00 5797...CV Tool to remove 6-point bolts...8mm for 3/8" ratchet "Quote" $8.95
31d-- #VM00 5797H...Socket Tool to remove 6-point Hex bolts and 24 new CV bolts "Quote" $24.95

31-- #N15 371 1...CV Bolt Washer...Special Hard Locking-(6) / CV -Torque to 25 ft lbs

32-- #VCVP...CV bolt Plate (3) / CV order

33-- #113 501 149...CV Axle Boot with Flange order $4.95
33-- #321 498 201A...CV Boot Kit ( German w/bolts & grease ) order $11.95
33-- #VM9999...CV Boot Black T-1 to T2 Set of 4 "Quote" set of 4 $18.95

34--Washer ( cupped spring washer ) remove if present "Do not use"--

35-- #113 501 331D...CV "Constant Velocity Joint" 3.540"/3.700" dia.* x 1.265" thick order
35-- #113 501 331...CV "Constant Velocity Joint" T-1 "Quote" $34.95
35-- #211 501 331B...CV T-2 Bus 3.930" dia.* x 1.335" thick "Quote" $37.95
35-- #BBCV ...CV ..T-2 Bus CV modified to use with T-1 axels when Bus Tran is used in Bug or Buggy "Quote" $69.95
35-- # 930 332 034...Porsche 930 CV...108mm 4.245" dia.* x 1.580" thick "Quote" $75.95
35a-- #_________ CV Grease 3.2oz of molybdenum grease per joint.
35b-- #GML14...CV Grease 14oz Tube molybdenum grease order order
CV's angle -> Type1 = 12 degrees / Type 2 = 17 degrees / Type 4 = 22degrees / 930 =25+ degrees depending on setup
Note: CV diameters* Outside diameters may very, but the small dia. that fits into the Stub axle or Tran. flange must be the correct size. Never run CV's without the snap ring. Always make sure there is axel end play (between CV's) when suspension is at both extremes. Fully compressed and under no load on stops. Never mix balls from one CV to another.

36-- #113 517 279...CV axle circlip (2) / Axle order $1.00 each

37-- #VUSA...Stub Axle -Order- 30mm / 1.181" diameter Note: IRS Splines are 2 1/2" long ...... Early Swing Axel Splines are 1 7/8" Long
37a- #VUSAA...Stub Axle Kit (Recycled Stub Axle, 3-spacers, nut & 2-Bearings >*ck -Order- $69.95

38--Grease cup used in some CVs

39--CV large clamp

40--Old type CV Boot without flange order

41--Small CV boot clamp ( We don't recommended using this clamp, Let it Float )

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:18 pm 
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yeah that kinda helped....im completely new at this and i want to do all the work instead of everyone else here that gives their car to a shop and then brags about it... thats not your car or rig then... i need all the help i can get.


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