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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:44 am 
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2001 forrester i do believe would be a 2.5sohc that is what i got my wiring harness from. 600.00 would be a good deal for the whole car imho.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:19 pm 
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rockrockets1 wrote:
Larry are you saying Claton can't climb with you consistently in his W/C BUGGY :?:


Read it again, Rocko. I said regular 'convential' manual TRANSAXLE buggies. The whole post was only referring to little ditch witch donut gitters like mine.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:26 pm 
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We are all in one class together,,and WC reigns superior :mrgreen: Until next hill climb proves different :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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We are all in one class together,,and WC reigns superior :mrgreen: Until next hill climb proves different :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

superior?

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More like technically advanced id say.. :)

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:34 am 
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OK , maybe Superior is a little strong,,,but it sounded good,,,how bout "Current Hill Climbing Champ" ?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:36 am 
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Up until now my Buggys were powered with VW motors. The first one was a 1641. It lasted me one season until It dropped a wrist pin clip in #3. It was definatly underpowered for my style of driving. Then I built a brand new 2165 from cases on up. It was a much more powerful engine. I had to replace P&Cs the second season not to mention all the other maintenace. I also played around with different heads and stuff to gain additional power. You can only get so much. Then I built my current Buggy with a Turbo 2332. Now that motor has the power however it too requires to much work to keep it running tip top. I am sure you are seeing were I am going here. I have come to the conclusion that the VW motor is not my cup of tea anymore. I have litterly dumped thousands into these motors and I am done with them. For the record I have been building motors of all kinds for 30 years so its not a Mechanical dissability on my part. These motors were build with extreme care and precision and they still have there issues. So in comes the Subaru motor. I have seen first hand what they are capable of. You can buy them dirt cheap and they are extremly reliable and you can replace them for a fraction of the cost of a VW build. To add to that if you invest the same amount of money into one of them as a VW to gain additional power there is no VW that is going to out power one. Now the jury is still out on the subie powerplant for me because I have not actually experienced it yet. Spring time will tell. I dont know if its going to be as responsive as my 2332 or will climb any better. The bottom line is I am getting older and have less time on my hands than ever before. I want to spend more time behind the wheel than on a milk crate! My decision to go subie was not made easyly however nessasary.

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How do the tranny's hold up to the suby power. Do you have to stuff them full of wiedle gears of will a stock bus hold up?

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How do the tranny's hold up to the suby power. Do you have to stuff them full of wiedle gears of will a stock bus hold up?


Good question..
And i like your input ody..

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How do the tranny's hold up to the suby power. Do you have to stuff them full of wiedle gears of will a stock bus hold up?

I have never heard of anyone having to stuff high dollar parts in the tranny. That would defete the advantage of a suby which as far as I can tell is cost savings.

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I did break 2 three ribs in less than a year with an ej22,, but the 6 rib with super diff is holding fine.

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I did break 2 three ribs in less than a year with an ej22,, but the 6 rib with super diff is holding fine.

Did you have your chains when you broke those?

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No sir,,the chains came after I upgraded to the stock 6 rib. I was running 35 boggers then,,, now I am running the 31's. The chains probably do absorb some shock but I do not use any torque multiplication with the 31's.

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I wanna do a diesel vw, what do yall think of that?


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I wanna do a diesel vw, what do yall think of that?

Do it behind the barn and don't get caught :mrgreen:

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I wanna do a diesel vw, what do yall think of that?

Do it behind the barn and don't get caught :mrgreen:


Haha thats good..

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I wanna do a diesel vw, what do yall think of that?


Go for the diesel!. I drove a little VW diesel on the Autobahn a few months ago. It ran 110-115mph like it was nothing. It had a ton of torque for its size. I bet they would work great in a buggy. You can even make your own fuel for them from old cooking oil. How cool is that?


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I wanna do a diesel vw, what do yall think of that?


Besides it revving like a ford and having no top end it will be GREAT!!! :lol:

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Ha Ha man i love the smartasses on this forum.. :lol:

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Right now I am running a 1984 Side shift vanagon 6 rib . It held up fine for the Turbo 2332 so I dont see any problem using it for the Subaru. I will say that I went thru 2 clutchs with the 2332 however the pressure plate was used when I got it so I don't know if that had some bearing on it. I ordered a stage 3 this time so I we see how it works out.

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Ody, Why did you have to replace P&C's after two years with the new little stroker you built?? Loss of compression, smoking? Was it ridden in sand a lot? And what was the other constant maintenance?

I'm not doubting your word, just wondering what could have went wrong, so I can prevent it if possible.

I dont understand the claims of eternal maintenance by so many converts. Our daily driver vehicles
(both '04) requires more attention than mine, my sons, or my wife's stroker motors. It is common to see 6 and 7 yr old strokers in our crowd that get their valves adjusted a couple times a year, maybe change the oil once a year (with a 11-14 qt dry sump), and those that run MSD have never even had to change plugs. And most get rode at least once a month, some once a week. Koko's 2387 is 4 or 5 years old now, and is 13:1 in a stock case, and not a sign of oil smoke, runs as good or better than ever, starts with a bump of the switch 99% of the time. Only problems ever with running was a bad MSD box, and its hard to blame that on "old" technology. ( Knock on wood :lol: )
It was built by the same guy who built my frame, in a cluttered fab shop that was FAR from ideal conditions for engine building as far as contamination.

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Larry fortunatly noone here can read between the lines. I was looking at a lowrider site the other day. Yes I love old Chevy lowriders. A slammed '63 Impala is a dream of mine.
Anyway I saw a thread titled hyd v's. air. The air guys where saying cheaper easier with a better ride. The Hyd. guys were saying air is to slow and if you have bags your car is not a real lowrider. Sound familiar?

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ha dean i can get you a 64 2dr hard top that need to be redone?ill even haul it out to ya!

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Ody, Why did you have to replace P&C's after two years with the new little stroker you built?? Loss of compression, smoking? Was it ridden in sand a lot? And what was the other constant maintenance?

I'm not doubting your word, just wondering what could have went wrong, so I can prevent it if possible.

I dont understand the claims of eternal maintenance by so many converts. Our daily driver vehicles
(both '04) requires more attention than mine, my sons, or my wife's stroker motors. It is common to see 6 and 7 yr old strokers in our crowd that get their valves adjusted a couple times a year, maybe change the oil once a year (with a 11-14 qt dry sump), and those that run MSD have never even had to change plugs. And most get rode at least once a month, some once a week. Koko's 2387 is 4 or 5 years old now, and is 13:1 in a stock case, and not a sign of oil smoke, runs as good or better than ever, starts with a bump of the switch 99% of the time. Only problems ever with running was a bad MSD box, and its hard to blame that on "old" technology. ( Knock on wood :lol: )
It was built by the same guy who built my frame, in a cluttered fab shop that was FAR from ideal conditions for engine building as far as contamination.

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Larry I had typed this big long explanation however it did not post so here is the condensed version. Compresson dropped. May be from heat, oil starvation or dirt, who knows. VW bottom ends do well for me and top ends do not. The point is I am not having the success rate that I here a lot of guys having with the VW so I am moving on. My future is Water cooled Microprocessor based power plants. No mus no fuss.

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