Couple of things that might help.

A couple of instances we had a traffic jam at the top of hills 1-6 and we had people coming up the hill. Clear communication from the guy letting em go at the bottom with the guy at the top. One dedicated flagman for each hill standing at the top to give the go signal to the official at the bottom.

Something on the front of the buggies to easily hook a strap too. Doesn't have to be permanent. Some buggies were hard to strap because of nothing easy to hook too.

Scoring I'm not so sure about. Haven't thought much on that one. I could see where it would be beneficial for everyone to know their current standing so they could know what they needed to do.

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a big ass trophy to take home or dance around the parking lot with yellin ha! ha!................other then that the hill climb was perfect.a good time with cool ass ppl.it dont get no better.....................

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I always like to see a "last man standing" format in any sporting event. Have a number of hills, start at the first one, if you make it you are on to the second, so on until only one remains. After the group of people who make it move on from the hill it can be used as a tiebreaker for the ones who never made it.

Have a point at the top of the hill that they have to cross to score a "full pull" and leave the judging out of it. Judges would have a hard time taking into account what the first guy does until after they have watched a few go up it. Curt, I'm sure you know what it's like being the first up a hill making a path for others....

How many hills have you seen that were pretty extreme until a few buggies went up them then they become play hills? Have each person who is climbing the hill to draw a number, that way they never have to hit the hill first every time. The guy that has to go first on each hill can do 2 of his 3 tries and then opt to be the last man to hit the hill with his last try. This would give the trailblazer a fighting chance.

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One thing that I noticed and even talked to you about it Curt was trash. This is our weekend riding area and I spoke to a few and so did some of the other locals about the trash being tossed on the ground. As you will all notice the place was clean thats because we keep it clean. So maybe some type of trash cans for the trash and beer cans to go in instead of on the ground and trails. Maybe the cans could be used to recycle and proceeds go to a charity or something.

The Wild Kids

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I was just talking to a buddy here at work about the hill climb a few minutes ago and asked about the trophy. He has made them out of cams and cranks and pistons before. Pretty cool idea I thought.

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Big signs with the hill number posted at the bottom might clear up the confusion some.

Just throwing these out there as I think of them.

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jw curt did u have any insurance or anything for the event.... not trying to down u at all what so ever


but on the way home my dad explained to me how far you went out on a lim if you did not have any of anykind .... ( he knows what he talking bout when it comes to this stuff ill give him that due to all the events he dose) but from the way he put it


if someone would have got hurt bad and say was paralized for life they could have started with sewing you then got everyone else envolved who helped ..... ( southern buggys, woodsbuggy.com, the thrift store owners.... and so on)

not sure if u knew of all this there was alot more he told me but i stoped lisening lol

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I do believe there was a liability wavier that had to be signed to compete. Also it would take big balls to pull that off! There would be about 600 guys looking for them if they sued any of the above!

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No admission was charged either.

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Thats the deal no admission just a group of friends riding like always

i see it like this if two guys are playing basket ball for $50 BUCKS ONE FALLS AND BRAKS A LEG CAN YOU SUE THE REF OR THE PARK THAT THE COURT IS AT NO AND THAT IS BASICLY WHAT WE WHERE DOING IN THE WOODS SAT.

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There are always dicks out there when they see a dollar to be made without working for it. Sometimes it will surprise you what people you thought you knew will do when there is money on the line.

My first cousin ran B&M Dragway (300ft. dirt drags) up until a year ago. He had a liablity waiver drawn up and his attorney told him as he was writing it that it was useless. He said that all it was good for was keeping honest people honest by not putting it in their mind that they could sue if injured. He said that it would not hold up in court because any lawyer worth hiring would argue that the potential risks were not made clear and thus their rights could not be waived. Liability insurance was expensive and luckily he never had to make a claim on it but the lawyer told him that if he ever hoped to keep his belongings he better have it. It is disgusting what the court system will allow to happen to hard working people while the deadbeats can sue for something stupid.

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I kept track of how many times it took them to make a full climb to,maybe this could be used to break ties,,,say it took joe 7trys to climb 6 hills and fred 12trys to climb 6 hills joe would win. I also heard a few guys complaining about running against purpose built climbers,but you will always have guys complaining about class's.. Come on guys give him some feed back so we can make the next one even better!

I too , heard some complaint about non woodsbuggy's winning. But I thoroughly enjoyed seeing the competition only buggys wearing out the hills. I would like to see at least 2 classes. One for woodsbuggys,,,those that show up at the regular rides and love to hit hills but also show up when it's just a meeting of buddies to ride new dirt. And the other for those that use their love for hill climbing to build a comp only buggy,,,say with bolted tires. This is a tough subject because I don't want to alienate any buggy,,,I long for the day I get my crap together and hold my own regardless of what tire someone else runs or what type of engine I am up against. That is what drives me to improve and makes me anxious to get into the woods sooner. I say we have group rides and and if you show up for at least one group ride you qualify as a Woodsbuggy. If you never make a scheduled group ride you are comp only and are in the comp only class which allows bolts.,,,I know,,,I hear the bickering already but it's just a suggestion

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From the folks I talked to and the vids I watched, it would be VERY hard to improve on this competition. It was THAT good from what I've been told!!

Comp. only buggies? I have watched every video posted ten times and didnt see any comp only buggies. I have been on 'fun rides' with most of the top finishers more than a few times. The winner could've got in ANYboby's decent buggy and still beat 80% of the field in a buggy that he was not used to. Those complaining should not mistake talent advantage for equipment advantage, like I used to when I first started watching Clayton when he had a regular buggy. He could always smack around the best of them, even the ones who taught him to climb. He does very well at every motorsport he does, Just one of those guys. Thats another thread, though.

If time would allow, maybe a couple fun awards, just for sh!^s and giggles. They'd be judged kinda subjectively, so no money.
Like:
best wheelie ( highest, or longest time, or longest distance)
best save
best start n stop on a hill (resulting in a successful climb)
best air out the top of a hill
etc.

Larry

Larry I saw NC buggy fixin to win until his axel broke and he is as green as it gets he has no time on his CD
clayton broke first
it is all about the buggy
I saw some damn good drivers climb had they been in claytons buggy or NC buggy they would have been close
we need a set of IROC buggys like nascar start with the same then it will be all driver
till then I don't think I could say one is better than the rest
Curt we need to build a comp buggy 2 mind you then we will know
and on a good note Clayton spoke to me at the hill climb
He put forth a effort so I will too
and larry after what you posted on D&K site it is clear your first loyalty is D&K
2nd Woodsbuggy family
and I saw 2 Ga built CD in the top 4 and another Tn CD in the 5 place with all them ky buggys
and I think any one there could have gotten in NC CD and it not broke or claytons buggy and it not broke and climbed every thing there the hills were not that bad except the bonous hill


PS do yall KY guys go by and tuck clayton in at night
bet you got a CLAYTON action figgure on your night stand

How about getting Budweiser to sponsor it and have the "Swedish bikini team" passing out drinks?

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I did chuckle at RR's comment about the action figure!

Like you said ,wrong thread for this subject. Tried not to thread steal, but I knew my post was a little scandalous.

Lets go to TT, Big 'Un.

Larry

Let me start out by saying that I’m Kathy not Wes so there’s no confusion. Next, let me say congratulations to ALL the winners of the competition and the success of the hillclimb.

As far as people complaining about buggy’s built for “competition only,” I’m like Larry I didn’t see any. If you’re talking about Clayton’s buggy, his buggy is built no different than any other buggy out there. His buggy is on the trails just like any of them, just about every weekend. And yes, your right it was built to climb hills as well, 95% of the Kentucky buggies are. That’s what we have here so that’s what we do, we climb hills.

Now Rockrockets, thanks for supporting the D & K site. Larry’s first loyalty should be for D & K, after all that is where he rides and most of all, that’s where the majority of his “friends” are, just like your first loyalty is to Curt and the places you ride and others to Dean and places they ride and I could go on and on. No difference. We are all buggy riders therefore part of the “Woodsbuggy community” and have met and made some good friends through Woodbuggy.com.

Now I don’t know if it’s just in your nature to be a JERK all the time or if it’s that you just don’t think about what you are saying, but I’m sure it’s obvious to others as well as myself you seem to have a problem with the people from Kentucky. All I can say to that is “Oh well, get over it”. It’s actually kinda funny because the comments you make are like the “Pot calling the kettle black” if you get my drift.

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how about an elimination climb say if there are 10 buggies pair them off the fastest or the farist moves up to compete with the buggy that wins in the next pair till there are only to buggies competing for first

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Watching the buggies back off the hills was pretty cool. But alot of riders are not use to that the people in kentucky are used to being strapped off on a hill there is nothing wrong with that. Some of the hills they climb would destroy a buggy in a roll over. So maby a little less points for backing off. As far as Hollwood goes the man broke his neck 6 months ago that man has a real drive to climbing hills . Some people dont work for years for a far less injury. So i dont think you are going to stop him he strives to be the best at what he does 6cyl or 4cyl i dont think it matters to him. I would like to know how far Rhonda was from first place she is amazing and i believe that was one of the first times she has climbed that buggy. I bet theres alot of guys on here with some sore pride her and Karen were amazing. The funny part was seeing the blond hair hanging out of the helmets. Long story short less points for backing of the hills. I think it would even it up a little more.

DAREK

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Seems that if you start talking about splitting classes folks get their feelings hurt. How about run what you brung but charge different entry fees? so much per cylinder,,,bolted tires,,chains,,etc., I know,,it's weird but just a thought

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Not a bad idea at all! I never would've thought of that. Bring more , pay more.

You could never be accused of thinking INSIDE the box, could you?
Thats a good thang, for sure.

Larry

Something that puts the regular buggies back in the event is like Darrell did,,buy back in for those not in the top X places. Get them hot shots out of the way then us regular buggies can show our stuff too

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i have talked to a few different buggies that was there,and they said it was a awesome event. When i asked them why the did not enter they said they could not climb with the comp buggies that was their. i think if there was classes it would produce more climbers. I do plan on being at the next one.