Getting ready to start a new build, for the most part i know what i want. I do need advice on where the best place to buy and the best prices on the following items. Front end torsion arms,spindles for 3" lift, and the rest of the parts for and link front end. I'm going to also be running bus torsion in rear would like to find a set of 3x3 trailing arms to fit that are stock dimensions. the buggy will be a first class build, and i will post alot of pictures when i get started. trying to gather all parts now. they are going to start on frame monday morning. any advice is helpfull THANKS

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When in doubt, hit it in second gear!

If I had any advise it would be to use a bug torsion with Deans HD or severe duty trailing arms. Bus arms are strong but in the trail if break somthing you know someone may have parts. The other thing about bus torsions is they are pretty stiff, I had one in my first buggy and cut it out after 1st season. Good luck and post pics of build!

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"YOU CAN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, WATCH THINGS HAPPEN OR WONDER WHAT THE F$$K HAPPEND...WE'RE MAKING THINGS HAPPEN" The strong words of Captain Phil! Rest in peice!

Where do you live? You need to find the Buggy shop closest to you. There is alot involved in building one of these. More than you would think. You are going to need parts and advice. All of our sponsers have great reputations.
I want to thank Steve for the the plug, but regardless of using my trailing arms or not. I have not heard of many people happy with bus torsions.
Keep asking questions. There is alot of knowledge here.
Dean

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I live in western nc. I ride in north ga, east tn, and around home. I have a good buggy now it has bus torsion in it and i like it. just builing a new one that has more room in it and is nicer. i am aware of all the work that is involved in builing one. the big thing is finding a 3x3 arms for a bus. thanks for the help

The bus is basicly 3 inches wider on each side already. To get the effect of 3x3 you only need to go back 3 inches. If you are satisfied with the bus torsion just lengthen the arms. Mock up a jig and do some splicing to lengthen your factory arms or fab some from scratch. The idea is to move the wheels back to achieve an optimum balance or weight bias. On a bug torsion since it is narrow you need to go out as you go back to maintain a decent angle for the CV's. The wider stance is a bonus for stability up to a certain point . After a certain point it becomes a hindrance on most trails clearing the trees. Most guys have found out that the bug torsion lets you do this and use wider tires,,,another bonus...LIghter too,,another bonus,,,easier to weld to,,another bonus,,,softer riding torsion bars too,,another bonus

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If your clutch ain't slippin,, you probably got it adjusted right!!!!!

we do not do alot of hill climbing so the wider tires does not come in effect i run buckshot R tires now. However i will not shy away from a good hill .I have found with a bug torsion with that big of tire that the bearings go bad often. i had a buggy with a bug torision in it and replaced them all the time and also had to reset the load on torsion. with the bus i have not found the problems have occured. As buggy riders what we all do when we find a problem is change stuff and fix the problem but we always have new problems pop up after the change. As far as the add weight it does not bother me because of where the weight is on the rail.thanks

All good points,,bigger , better bearings for sure,, You should be able to push them bearings strait back by fabbing the arms longer,,,go with 930s and get more travel. Travel is good..longer travel lets the shocks absorb more. BTW my buggy uses bus bearings on the front sprocket and bug on the rear..I just changed out one of my rear bearings after it busted on Halloween ride. With the bus arms the rear tires remain more parallel. They don't arc as much as bug arms. This should make it easier to fab a jig. How far back you move the bearings is limited by what CV you use. It can't bind. Your axle length also comes into play if you know what axle you are going with. Some factory axles are longer. Aftermarket axles some in various lengths. Good luck...I look forward to pics of your project.

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If your clutch ain't slippin,, you probably got it adjusted right!!!!!

I have built more than my share
for years we used bus cause we did'nt know no better
car is the way to go
I have a jig some where where I used to build trailing arms for bus
one used vanagon long axels but over the years It got lost threw away or something
car all the way get a adjuster to go in the tortion Dean's 3x3 a set of 19 1/4 axels you will like it
and I ran TSL 38 on my rail with 3x3 and 28mm saw tortion bars for years with no O problems with brg
THATS STATE OF THE ART

I'm sure Drews can make a set of 3x3 bus arms, if they don't already have a set.

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