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 Post subject: Where to start my buggy
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:12 pm 
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This will be my 3rd buggy my first was a 1641 street but was off road alot to. then i got a one that was like a rail drag car with a 2332 :lol: :lol: . then i got married and i was told it had to go, but now its time to start a new one. this been 3 years now and i know i want one i can drive on the street.

SO here is the ?? would i be better off buying one that is on the street now, or do start with all new stuff.
Im also thinking about going with a 1915 with 31 or so tires would this work good or can i go bigger with the tires, or do you guys think i should start with a bigger motor.

thanks mark

please dont burn me im just trying to find out the best place to start so dont have to redo stuff and put a$$ loads of money into it. :cry:

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:15 pm 
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It is cheaper to buy one complete than build one from srcatch. Find one with most the parts you want an go from there.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:24 pm 
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Thanks guys

but do you guys think starting with a 1915 is a good motor to start with?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:29 pm 
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Both of the rails that I have had I built and I can tell you from my experiences and as everyone has stated already its a WHOLE lot cheaper to buy one already done or has what you want.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:40 pm 
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As far as the motor question goes, that depends on your budget and how fast you wanna go. 8) I'd guess a 1915 in well built street rail would be pretty quick behind a car tranny or a 6rib. I'd be mostly concerned with how well built and what kind of shape the motor was in vs. size on the first one, unless you are planning to go big soon anyways.

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Just dont screw up like I did and try to take a decent frame and mold it into what you want it sucks to constantly work and not get to play. im currently in mine about a grand after purchase and have maybe rode an hour maybe two and haven,t even started on my drivetrain yet. Pay the money and buy what you need and don't look to steal one then fix it up to your standards. :oops:

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Just a thought on the engine: You are going to have just a couple hundred bucks more in a 2276 than you will in a 1915. If you think through the build before you buy anything you can get your stroker parts for about the same price as the non-stroker and end up with a lot more motor for almost the same money. 8)

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Try here first :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:00 pm 
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kendel wrote:
http://www.woodsbuggy.com/forum/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=6

Try here first :lol:

its on my list of places to look thanks.
kybuggy1 wrote:
As far as the motor question goes, that depends on your budget and how fast you wanna go. 8) I'd guess a 1915 in well built street rail would be pretty quick behind a car tranny or a 6rib. I'd be mostly concerned with how well built and what kind of shape the motor was in vs. size on the first one, unless you are planning to go big soon anyways.

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Just a thought on the engine: You are going to have just a couple hundred bucks more in a 2276 than you will in a 1915. If you think through the build before you buy anything you can get your stroker parts for about the same price as the non-stroker and end up with a lot more motor for almost the same money. 8)


thanks for the input i was thinking about a 1915 bc i was told that was as big as you really wanted to go on the street. is this not right ??
and what ever i find i know i will want to build the motor and i was also thinking about a turbo in a year or so what ever i do i want it to work with my plan so i donig buy stuff more then once and redoing everything.

and thanks again for the input hope to see you guys in the woods soon!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:21 pm 
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You can run a 2276 or 2332 on the street if you keep a sane compression ratio and run premium gas. If it is going into a sedan you want to make sure the engine bay keeps all the original seals for proper cooling. On a light weight rail you can run a tad bit higher compression without it spark knocking but ALWAYS get the best gas at the pump. If you are planning on putting huge amounts of miles on the engine between rebuilds you may want to use 90.5mm cylinders instead of 94's. I've heard they are thicker and live longer. On the flip side, my brother has a 2276 that he has run for 15 of the hardest years you can imagine without anything but the regular maintenance. 8)

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The size of the motor you need is directly porportional to the former size of you wallet. For street use it depends on what you are after, top acceleration or top durability, you could build either way but neither will be cheap. Now for woods use you need an all out drag race motor to get wheel speed to climb big hills or just lots of low end tourqe for trail riding , again neither is cheap. So get somthing that runs first and start riding the decide what you really want to do an build a motor to do that 1 thing well. go cheap first and get out there asap then you will know by Experience!


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kendel wrote:
The size of the motor you need is directly porportional to the former size of you wallet. For street use it depends on what you are after, top acceleration or top durability, you could build either way but neither will be cheap. Now for woods use you need an all out drag race motor to get wheel speed to climb big hills or just lots of low end tourqe for trail riding , again neither is cheap. So get somthing that runs first and start riding the decide what you really want to do an build a motor to do that 1 thing well. go cheap first and get out there asap then you will know by Experience!


But a well built "torque motor" 2276 is still likely to have more horsepower than a 1915 unless it is built to the extreme.
If you are starting with absolutely no parts whatsoever, a 2276 will use %99 of the same parts as a 1915 and will cost very close to the same amount.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:47 am 
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building is a lot more expensive i can tell you that from exp. but if you don't have the 5-6000.00 to plunk down all at once building can be to your advantage. i built mine in one month while i was doing fab work i got a tranny then seats cutters pedals rims pretty much picked up a few new things each week. i have a lot in it but its worth every penny.

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