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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:18 pm 
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I JUST PUT A ELECTRIC FURNES IN MY SHOP BUT I DONT THINK THE WIRE IS BIG ENOUGH THAT GO'S FROM THE HOUSE TO MY SHOP CAN SOME ONE HELP ME?


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propane or kerosene


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How many amps is your service from the house to the garage?

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how many amps does the furnace draw?How many amps are run to your garage?My uncle is a retired union electrician he did my garage and I have plenty of power,I will ask him what you need to run it.

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Watch out for that Kentucky Wild leg wiring. Have seen people take a 240 and split it thinking that they can run 110 off of it. Will pop things every time, agree with everyone one else check to see what you intend to run in the garage and add some extra for later down the road. Calculate the amps and thats what you will need in the garage.

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You just cant beat a good wood burning stove, if you dont mind splinting a little wood.

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i ran 6-3 with ground when i put mine in(double 60 amp breaker)to the elements-- mine uses seperate 110 feed to run the blower

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Radiant floor heat is the best way to go, or radiant tubes on the ceiling.

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I second the Radiant floor heating. Thats what I have . After choking over the cost to install I never looked back.

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What about a used oil drip stove. Seen them before and are easy to set up and you can save your used oil all year long to burn in it.

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reasons to use elec. furnace in garage
1)when i want to work in garage i flip on the breaker--in 10 to 15 minutes its t-shirt temp(grew up using wood in garages--if you dont build fire 2 hours ahead of time it justs gets to temp when u are finishing what you had to do)
2)no flame---dont have to worry about fumes or vapors
3)no mess--- i have a hard enough time keeping garage clean without piles of newspaper,kindling,hatchet,wood and bark in way
4)nothing to draw rodents--main problem with cornburner--bags of corn in garage mice will be there too
5)no nozzles plugging up like oil or waste oil burners
6)thermostatically controled-- stays constant temp
7)when its super hot in the summer turn on blower motor--gets air moving
8) you con hang them on wall or from rafters-upright,upside down, or sidewaise--doesnt matter--nice space saving feature
9)turn off breaker when done--no worrying about "did i shut the damper or ash drawer?" :)

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WK if you split a 220 line 2 hots and a ground to one hot and a ground you get 110 every time


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[quote='rockrockets1']WK if you split a 220 line 2 hots and a ground to one hot and a ground you get 110 every time[/quote]

WIth a 220 yes, just not that 240 line most of the time you will have one that is 130 and the other a 110 or some other combination of that. Seen it alot with the HVAC lines we have come across.
Seen somethings that not only make you go Hmm but damn it hasn't caught of fire yet!

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I haven't put heat in my shop yet but what I do suggest is that you insulate as well as possible. I used Icynene on my home and It is great. When funds allow I will use it on my shop also. It is a sprayed on foam that goes on before the wallboard. It don't take much heat down here anyway and the foam insulation makes it easier to heat. 8)

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insulation pays for itself in 1 yrs time up here- :)

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iv taken a electric forced air heater iv ran a 6" pvc pip from house to shop iv ran a few 110 line and 1 220 line for my air comp. and it has worked fine but when i hooked my heater up to the 220 it pop the braker a few times so i put a 60amp braker it dose not pop no more but it smells like burnt wires and the braker get hot . my shop is about 100ft from the house what size 220 wire do i run from house to shop just for the heater?


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I ran 6 gauge wire to my electric furnace in my house but its only 25 feet from box. You may want to run 4 gauge for that distance.

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I think you went the wrong way,,,,4 gauge :?

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[quote='Steve']I ran 6 gauge wire to my electric furnace in my house but its only 25 feet from box. You may want to run 8 gauge for that distance.[/quote]

ummm....8 ga is smaller than 6, unless you are referring to 0-6 and 0-8, which either would would carry Willies whole street! :o All three people who live on it :twisted: ! (Not really but 0- is some big wire!) My shop is 300' from my house and I run a compressor , 220 welder, fridge, 22 lights, small powdercoat bake oven, and


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What i love about wood heat is the one time expense of buying a stove and stove pipe. Fire wood is easy to come by if you cut it yourself. No extra monthly expense on your electric/gas bill. A wood stove is also considerably cheaper than an electric or gas unit so you have less start up cost too. If you split all of the wood outside and stack a little inside the mess is minimal too. In my opinion its the way to go, but everyone has a different view on everything. Just my 2 cents

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Wattage divided by voltage = amperage.
Find out what the wattage your furnace is rated at and do the math.
Some are listed in KW which is a 1000 watts.

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The smallest wire you should run to you garage is #6 with a 60 amp breaker at the main breaker box. I ran #2s to my shop and the whole run is only 75'. You are better off running a larger wire to accomadate existing and future loads like a welder etc. Keep in mind that motor loads draw 6 times the full load name plate amps (FLA) when they start and need to be considered when sizing your mains and breakers.
Here are some typical wire size and what size breakers are used:
#14 - 15 amps
#12 - 20 amps
#10 - 30 amps
# 8 - 40 amps
# 6 - 60 amps
# 2 - 100 amps

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just wondering is this what most people use for there shop or is ther better for a really big shop

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Everybody loves the sound of a jet engine in there ear. That is the normal shop sound in the winter isn't it? lol!

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