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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:53 pm 
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i agree with what streetstock174 said !


Depends on amount of boost, stroke, bore ...ect .
Just cuz it has turbo doesn't mean it is more likely to blow.
Think of it like this if you have a 500hp motor but u run it at 250 hp it will last longer
But if u have a 80 hp motor and run 140 hp out of it, it has alot higher chance of blowing up.

Think of a buggy as a lump of clay you can make it into anything you want (assuming you have the money and knowledge)
but yes u could put ecotec in it

Just my thoughts

If you cant fix it with a hammer it aint worth fixin!!!!


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Thank you very much for all the explaining it really makes it all clear now.
this the chain drive is really interesting ( http://woodsbuggy.com/forum/topic?uid=1 ... 473&start= ) cheap and would turn out at around 3.5k with shipment. but i would probably drive there.

but like you said it is built and can blow since it is turbo, but if it blows is it possible to put a eco tec in there?, and yes i love working on stuff changing personalizing, im good with 2 stroke carbs but no experience with the 4 stroke stuff im a die hard 2 stroke for motorcycles.

Thank you! :D[/quote]

You can put anything you want in there, as long as you have the skill and ability to make it work. Adapter plate will allow you to bolt an eco, or a subie, or a v-8 depending on which one you buy, just have to buy the plate, figure out where to mount radiator, get the wiring and cpu, etc.

Your gonna have an initial investment to convert a/c to w/c. Sure these w/c guys can give you insight on how much it cost to change over. (I'm basing this off the link to the chaindrive where it was said it was thought it was a type 4 motor, which is a/c).


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:58 pm 
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streetstock174 wrote:

Thank you very much for all the explaining it really makes it all clear now.
this the chain drive is really interesting ( http://woodsbuggy.com/forum/topic?uid=1 ... 473&start= ) cheap and would turn out at around 3.5k with shipment. but i would probably drive there.

but like you said it is built and can blow since it is turbo, but if it blows is it possible to put a eco tec in there?, and yes i love working on stuff changing personalizing, im good with 2 stroke carbs but no experience with the 4 stroke stuff im a die hard 2 stroke for motorcycles.

Thank you! :D[/quote]

You can put anything you want in there, as long as you have the skill and ability to make it work. Adapter plate will allow you to bolt an eco, or a subie, or a v-8 depending on which one you buy, just have to buy the plate, figure out where to mount radiator, get the wiring and cpu, etc.

Your gonna have an initial investment to convert a/c to w/c. Sure these w/c guys can give you insight on how much it cost to change over. (I'm basing this off the link to the chaindrive where it was said it was thought it was a type 4 motor, which is a/c).[/quote]



Alright, than that could be an option buy that buggy run it till it blows and then buy a ecotec and fit it in there.
The only thing i like less is that the tranny is a bus automatic.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:01 pm 
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Cpt.Matt wrote:
i agree with what streetstock174 said !


Depends on amount of boost, stroke, bore ...ect .
Just cuz it has turbo doesn't mean it is more likely to blow.
Think of it like this if you have a 500hp motor but u run it at 250 hp it will last longer
But if u have a 80 hp motor and run 140 hp out of it, it has alot higher chance of blowing up.

Think of a buggy as a lump of clay you can make it into anything you want (assuming you have the money and knowledge)
but yes u could put ecotec in it

Just my thoughts

If you cant fix it with a hammer it aint worth fixin!!!!

Ok, i should get more info on that buggy with extra pictures also i cant wait!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:32 pm 
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Ecotech 2.2 swap consists of transmission adapter and flywheel, modified ecotech wiring harness and reflashed computer a radiator and extra motor mounts.
Alpha fab industries has complete 2.4 ecotech kits check them out there on this site and not far south of your border
And I would recommend a six rib trans with a ecotech


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:47 pm 
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Cush53 wrote:
Ecotech 2.2 swap consists of transmission adapter and flywheel, modified ecotech wiring harness and reflashed computer a radiator and extra motor mounts.
Alpha fab industries has complete 2.4 ecotech kits check them out there on this site and not far south of your border
And I would recommend a six rib trans with a ecotech



Awsome i will check that out!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:09 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:22 pm 
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If you have ridden 2-stoke dirt bikes and four stroke dirt bikes then compare the Air cooled to the 2-stroke and a water cooled to the four stroke bike. I've rode bikes and I've rode Buggies had several 2-strokes-4-stroke bikes had several A/C VW and couple W/C Buggies. Still luv 2-strokes and V/W currently running Honda 3.5 but would jump in a A/C and have a blast any day. Happy trails


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:29 pm 
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Like a two stroke :) :) :);)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:03 pm 
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Psycho Alpha wrote:
Like a two stroke :) :) :);)
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RDB#3 wrote:
If you have ridden 2-stoke dirt bikes and four stroke dirt bikes then compare the Air cooled to the 2-stroke and a water cooled to the four stroke bike. I've rode bikes and I've rode Buggies had several 2-strokes-4-stroke bikes had several A/C VW and couple W/C Buggies. Still luv 2-strokes and V/W currently running Honda 3.5 but would jump in a A/C and have a blast any day. Happy trails



ok, are you saying reiliability wise or feeling how it rides? i cant stand 4 stroke dirtbikes haha, but what you guys think of the picktures of the chain drive i posted?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:08 pm 
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Comparing the way the power comes in and reliability. I just seen several comments u made about bike and thought that would give u a better idea since u had experience with bikes. Stay away from the chain drives I've had those to.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:12 pm 
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RDB#3 wrote:
Comparing the way the power comes in and reliability. I just seen several comments u made about bike and thought that would give u a better idea since u had experience with bikes. Stay away from the chain drives I've had those to.


ok, Whats wrong/problems with chain drives? didnt hear the bad part about them yet only the good.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:12 pm 
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Reliability and feeling wise in my case.
But I don't have a VW and/or chaindrive so don't really have a opinion on those set ups.
I really like that chaindrive you posted if I didn't have a buggy and a project I would get it.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:16 pm 
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Psycho Alpha wrote:
Reliability and feeling wise in my case.
But I don't have a VW and/or chaindrive so don't really have a opinion on those set ups.
I really like that chaindrive you posted if I didn't have a buggy and a project I would get it.


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Im debating whether or not i should buy i, i really like it and it seems to be powerful and nice well made frame big ground clearance perfect for trails! now the bad bad of it i dont know

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:22 pm 
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In my opinion if you go air cooled a 23.. Is around the perfect margin for just enough power to best reliability. Take from all the post on her that all of us ride different terrain and have different styles of driving. No ones right and no ones wrong we've all just sacrificed time,money,blood,sweat and tears to find something that worked for our own expectations. Regardless we're all saying get something safe and has good parts u can make it your own.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:29 pm 
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Chain drive... Mine had a 4.3 with nitrous,built power glide,air bagged and 40" studded pitbulls. My driving style is strictly hill climbing. What I didn't personally like was it was heavier than I liked,to much rotating mass, less agile, best chains money could buy would stretch-break and that broke other things and parts for the chain drives just don't fall off trees. Just didn't work for me it's just one mans opinion


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RDB#3 wrote:
In my opinion if you go air cooled a 23.. Is around the perfect margin for just enough power to best reliability. Take from all the post on her that all of us ride different terrain and have different styles of driving. No ones right and no ones wrong we've all just sacrificed time,money,blood,sweat and tears to find something that worked for our own expectations. Regardless we're all saying get something safe and has good parts u can make it your own.
RDB#3 wrote:
Chain drive... Mine had a 4.3 with nitrous,built power glide,air bagged and 40" studded pitbulls. My driving style is strictly hill climbing. What I didn't personally like was it was heavier than I liked,to much rotating mass, less agile, best chains money could buy would stretch-break and that broke other things and parts for the chain drives just don't fall off trees. Just didn't work for me it's just one mans opinion



ok yea sounds powerfull, to be honest i wont be doing big hills climbs some sand hills but i dont really have the terrain here like in wellsville for example. mostly mudding and trails tight woods trails also. and yea drive chain looks to have even more parts so more complicated..


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:46 am 
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anything you guys can see with these pictures?

i think im gonna go with this buggy.

i really like the look and design.!

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seems to have power steering

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dont know what to look for here

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box of extra pieces

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the owner says small exhaust leak and leaks a little oil at the push rod tubes, says this which i dont under stand "it is cool with two 8" squirrel fans made into the tins around the motor, has chevy alternator on it so doesnt have original fan shroud on it.


Thank you guys this is maby the right buggy for me ;) :D


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:57 pm 
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Now my 2 cents.......Fly your a** down here to Louisville Ky and I'll suck your eyeballs back in your head with this new Chaindrive I jus bought!

It's a Burns chassis just as the one your looking to maybe purchase. That style chassis is a GREAT hill killer, trail rider, or mud pit chassis but it needs all the newer upgrades, like 36" trailing arms, full floater rear axles, air bags, gear change at the sprockets so you can actually run 44" cut/bolted tires like these chassis was designed to do, awesome custom designed power steering, upgraded trans, AND the engine of your choice!!!

Mr. Burns, who is the creator of the Chaindrive, runs a Chevy 383ci naturally aspirated with twin LP units, on the exact same trans that is in that Chaindrive, but with his upgrades. On one of my Chaindrives I run a GM 3.1 Turbo V6 on LP, on this new one there is a GM 4.3 hyd roller, alum headed, hybrid TO4 Turbonetics, w/twin propane mixers. I run Q-Buckshots on front and 44" Bolted tires or 44" cut Boggers on rear. Also has the upgraded full floater 31 spline Moser axles on rear.

The Chaindrive Rail is not for everyone. The front A-arms are built in a jig as well as the rear trailing arms. Nearly everything on it was custom made. If you don't have the ability to recreate the parts after a crash, then maybe it's not for you. BUT, if you made all the upgrades, you could be the Baddest in Canada!

I wouldn't let my 3.1 rail go for less than $8k and the fellow I picked the other Chaindrive off of had over $25k in it. He has receipts for over $8k in the engine! I'm into it for under half. Hill Pilot, on this forum, is also a Chaindrive owner that jus finished his build. He can testify, they are not cheap to build!

If I didn't already have 2 Chaindrive's, that rail would be in my shop by now! $2500 is a "SMOKIN DEAL" for someone who has the ability to do the repairs and upgrades!

As soon as I figure out how to get a big pic on this forum I'll post up a few.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:06 pm 
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ChaindriveJeff wrote:
Now my 2 cents.......Fly your a** down here to Louisville Ky and I'll suck your eyeballs back in your head with this new Chaindrive I jus bought!

It's a Burns chassis just as the one your looking to maybe purchase. That style chassis is a GREAT hill killer, trail rider, or mud pit chassis but it needs all the newer upgrades, like 36" trailing arms, full floater rear axles, air bags, gear change at the sprockets so you can actually run 44" cut/bolted tires like these chassis was designed to do, awesome custom designed power steering, upgraded trans, AND the engine of your choice!!!

Mr. Burns, who is the creator of the Chaindrive, runs a Chevy 383ci naturally aspirated with twin LP units, on the exact same trans that is in that Chaindrive, but with his upgrades. On one of my Chaindrives I run a GM 3.1 Turbo V6 on LP, on this new one there is a GM 4.3 hyd roller, alum headed, hybrid TO4 Turbonetics, w/twin propane mixers. I run Q-Buckshots on front and 44" Bolted tires or 44" cut Boggers on rear. Also has the upgraded full floater 31 spline Moser axles on rear.

The Chaindrive Rail is not for everyone. The front A-arms are built in a jig as well as the rear trailing arms. Nearly everything on it was custom made. If you don't have the ability to recreate the parts after a crash, then maybe it's not for you. BUT, if you made all the upgrades, you could be the Baddest in Canada!

I wouldn't let my 3.1 rail go for less than $8k and the fellow I picked the other Chaindrive off of had over $25k in it. He has receipts for over $8k in the engine! I'm into it for under half. Hill Pilot, on this forum, is also a Chaindrive owner that jus finished his build. He can testify, they are not cheap to build!

If I didn't already have 2 Chaindrive's, that rail would be in my shop by now! $2500 is a "SMOKIN DEAL" for someone who has the ability to do the repairs and upgrades!

As soon as I figure out how to get a big pic on this forum I'll post up a few.


for fabrication i have access to a welder and people who know how to weld so no problem there, i am going to speak with my father since i will be driving there with him! hopefully i will pick it up around 20th of December because we are going in vacation in 1 week for 2 weeks! i cant wait sounds just to fun and amazing, i find it as fun as to work on a project as to ride it that is another reason why i want a buggy to work on it and make it amazing and unique.

if you can post pictures of you chain drive it would be cool!

i usually use this site http://postimage.org/

you can multiple upload by pressing CRTL while clicking on the pictures. and copy the "Hotlink for Forums" and paste it here

Thank you very appreciated guys! :)


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:31 am 
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If dual carbs are set right, you will not have any trouble with them. Imo.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:57 am 
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If dual carbs are set right, you will not have any trouble with them. Imo.

Alright great, is leaking push rod tubes a small easy fixable problem on vw 1800?

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Rocker arms come off pull pushrods out. Put adjustable pushrods tubes in , put back together and adjust valves

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Rocker arms come off pull pushrods out. Put adjustable pushrods tubes in , put back together and adjust valves

Ok thank you i watched a video on youtube about it, looks easy

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:43 pm 
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Pettigo wrote:
If dual carbs are set right, you will not have any trouble with them. Imo.


Guess I haven't been that lucky with them. Seems like something always comes loose and throws them way outta wack. But when they're right, it'll scream.... As Roger says, just one mans opinion... Now would I trade them for a single? No. Simple as that. To me they're worth the headaches.


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