is anybody running fox 2.0 air shocks on the rear of a buggy with no tortion?

PM wildpinto he is running them with no torsion front and rear

He did not have to go to 2 sets in the rear. I would think that one set in the rear would max out the shocks capability. What pressure is he running in the rear?

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I have heard good thing about them. Everyone that has 'em likes 'em.

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Plumberbill is running them on a 4 seater and he says he loves them.

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I have 4 Fox shoxs 2.0 12" travels on the rear, but I am running Sway-Away torsions with adjustable keys, when the setup is right, it is awesome! I don't think that you can run them without some kind of torsions unless you are running coilovers. I tried to run them without torsions, it sits too low to the ground even I have 300psi in them, the torsions helps keep your ground clearance maintained. Ask Pipedope, he runs them too.

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[quote='sharpshooter']PM wildpinto he is running them with no torsion front and rear[/quote] Is he running coilovers?

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plumber bill is using torsions in the rear to get the required ride height. I would think even with 500 PSI (max) in one set of the shocks with out the torsions you could not hold up the weight for very long if at all.

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[quote='Odyknuck']plumber bill is using torsions in the rear to get the required ride height. I would think even with 500 PSI (max) in one set of the shocks with out the torsions you could not hold up the weight for very long if at all.[/quote] True!! Been there done that!

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hey badvw air you using the 2.0 air shocks our just the fox 2.0s? if check out all those rock buggy, thats all they run with four link set up. the 2.0 air shocks claim to hold up to a 1000 lbs per side.

I am just running the Fox 2.0's, but still, the air shoxs are not designed to run on a railbuggy, they run those piggyback shocks on buggies in the Baja 1000 races. A buddy of mine runs them on his Samurai, 4-linked and all, it does very well, but on a buggy?? I don't know for sure, they are built for setups to have travel purposes like rockcrawling, but you never know, there is a lot of trial and error, been there, done that many times. Just my 2-cents.

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thanks for the info.

How about the 2.5 Fox air shocks? they are made for heavier vehicals. I got the 2.0 on my bug, and i got the pressure up to 400 pounds, it works great but i kinda wish i went with the bigger ones, i think they are about 100 bucks more for the 2.5.

I have Fox 2.0 air shox on the 4 seater i am building I was not going to run torsions but even with 450# pressure I can tell i will need to use the torsion bars I am running a W/C so that added some weight.

Wildpinto is not running any torsion bars in his,you have to set your ride hieght with the oil in the shock,and then add your nitro,it took awhile for him to get them right,but once it was explained by off road enginering how to set them up they are great and work with out having the torsion bars.The shocks are all that holds up the buggy front and rear

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Fox air shocks are designed to be used without any springs and that is there purpose however they do have a weight limit. The nitrogen is the spring and the vecosity of the oil is the dampning along with the shim stackes typically set at 60/40 rebound/compression ratio.

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I am building my buggy now with Fox 2.0 airshox and it holds it up fine. I have no torsion bars or springs in the front or rear. I also have a 2.3 Ford so there is extra weight. The buggy is not done but aside from gas and coolant the weight won't change much. I have a nitrogen tank and charge my own shocks. My valving is stock now and the nitrogen is at 260 pounds. The rear is sagging a little but it holds it up with no problems. With correct valving, shock oil and nitrogen pressure I am convinced they will work great. The frame is my own based on a Stalker with just over 100" wheelbase. A lot of weight up front also with power steering from a ram servo setup and a Warn 8000 pound winch. I also use 4X5 rear arms on the rear and 4"longer 1.75" wider arms on an 8" wider beam in the front. The front shocks have very little pressure and I can smash down on the bumper and only move it a couple inches.

Here is my buggy under construction. The air shocks are the only thing holding it up.

fortydegnorth, Thats good info to know that with 260# of nitrogen the rears are holding up fine. Sounds like 300 to 350 will be better for them. I am curious to find out how well one set in the rear perform and hold up under riding conditions. Keep us posted.

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Ah! just saw the pics of your buggy and its looking good. Are the shocks in the front 8 or 10" travel? What length and model ram are you using on the beam. I noticed one end welded to the beam. I did mine over the weekend and the ram is a sweet 11" model and the outer bracket ended up on the frame. I like the way you did the rear section unlike the Stalker were the motor has to come out from above.

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fortdegnorth, first i most say very cool looking buggy! thank for the pics and info. thanks to all woodsbuggy members, what a cool site.

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Sweet looking buggy. I really like it. I do have some advice to you before you get it painted or coated. You should brace the outer part of the beam. You would be surprised how easily it will bend. Mine just bent a couple of months ago. I didn't hit the tree stump very hard either. Just tapped it at 2 mph.

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Thanks. Odynuck the ram is 10" made by PSC. The front and rear shocks are overkill at 12" front and 16" rear. I bought them used off pirate4x4 so the deal was there and I couldn't pass it up. Thanks Roy, I am not anywhere near ready to powdercoat. Nothing is fully welded and there will be a lot more gussets to install. I don't have time in the summer to spend days working on it, but in the winter I have tons of time. This buggy will be getting the accessories treatment still. I have a color GPS, CD player, side panels, hood, roof, HID roof lights and the works. I figured go big the second time around. I will post pics once it gets closer to finished.