It is currently Sun May 03, 2026 5:21 am

Board index » Tech and Fab » Suspension and Chassis

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 34 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: air bags
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:21 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:50 pm
Posts: 62
i have a two seat buggy and would like to put air bags on the back. i am running a vw motor. so if anyone could help that would be great. i dont have a bunch of of money to put in it.[/list]


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:26 pm 
Offline
WoodsBuggy Addict
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:26 pm
Posts: 3010
Location: GEORGIA ON MY MIND
firebug has air bags on a conventional buggy he can tell you what you need .It's fairly inexpensive :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:59 pm 
Offline
Global moderator
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 30, 2007 2:01 pm
Posts: 5137
Location: Hazel Green, Alabama
there are some pics and info under "torsion bars" in "suspension and chassis" 8)

_________________
Image If your clutch ain't slippin,, you probably got it adjusted right!!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:54 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:50 pm
Posts: 62
this is what i have to work with

Image

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:04 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:06 pm
Posts: 1381
Location: North of Pittsburgh
You have all kinds of room. Maybe PM Madmike he has the same trailing arms maybe he can get some pics to give you some ideas.

_________________
When in doubt, hit it in second gear!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:52 pm 
Offline
BOTM Winner
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:14 pm
Posts: 1262
Location: connellsville,pa
Heres some pics of mine hope it helps. i just run a shrader valve and just air the bags seperatly.everyone does it different.
Image
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:25 pm 
Offline
WoodsBuggy Addict
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:26 pm
Posts: 3010
Location: GEORGIA ON MY MIND
cool :P


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:37 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:50 pm
Posts: 62
http://proper-designs.com/catalog/produ ... ucts_id=68

would these be good air bags to use.

cyle


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:53 am 
Offline
Global moderator
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 30, 2007 2:01 pm
Posts: 5137
Location: Hazel Green, Alabama
I think that if you have the room those would be great. And a good price too. good luck 8)

_________________
Image If your clutch ain't slippin,, you probably got it adjusted right!!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:39 am 
Offline
BOTM Winner
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:14 pm
Posts: 1262
Location: connellsville,pa
i run 2500 bags them should work.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:32 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:50 pm
Posts: 62
do i still need to run shocks with the air bags

cyle


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:27 pm 
Offline
BOTM Winner
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:14 pm
Posts: 1262
Location: connellsville,pa
Oh ya if not you'll be like a pogo stick.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:09 pm 
Offline
WoodsBuggy Addict
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:21 pm
Posts: 1560
Location: Elyria, Ohio
Here is how I did mine. I'm running 2500lb bags I got from Dave Hix.

I used 1.5 square tubing with .175 walls. I also ran down supports to the stingers, using 1


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:38 pm 
Offline
Master fabricator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:55 pm
Posts: 2304
Location: S.W. Pa. Wellsville Water Cooled Chapter
What I know about air bags is to use the largest bag you can get to fit. 3000# or bigger work the best because it takes less air pressure to maintain a given ride height. Set the center of the bag 1/3 the way down the arm from the inboard pivot OR MORE. The further down the arm the less air it takes to hold things up. The less air the softer the springrate, the softer the springrate the softer the ride. The top plate and bottom plate can be no more than 30 deg out of parallel and off-set no more than 2". Test everything before you weld it in for good. As far as the bags operation, put in a couple of shrader valves, find the ride height you want and call it a day, anything else your just adding weight.
Image
Image
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:42 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:50 pm
Posts: 62
thanks for all the pictures they will help a lot

cyle


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:49 pm 
Offline
WB Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:17 am
Posts: 1461
Location: Harmony Pa Wellsville rocks!!
WOW Are those archive pics? Looks like v-dub in the car

_________________
"YOU CAN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, WATCH THINGS HAPPEN OR WONDER WHAT THE F$$K HAPPEND...WE'RE MAKING THINGS HAPPEN" The strong words of Captain Phil! Rest in peice!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:04 pm 
Offline
Master fabricator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:55 pm
Posts: 2304
Location: S.W. Pa. Wellsville Water Cooled Chapter
We all had to start somewhere. 8)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:06 pm 
Offline
WB Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:17 am
Posts: 1461
Location: Harmony Pa Wellsville rocks!!
I know I'm learning right now, the hard way.

_________________
"YOU CAN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, WATCH THINGS HAPPEN OR WONDER WHAT THE F$$K HAPPEND...WE'RE MAKING THINGS HAPPEN" The strong words of Captain Phil! Rest in peice!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:09 pm 
Offline
Hill Climber

Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:06 pm
Posts: 1859
Location: Republic of Texas
Cyle ordered a set of Firestone 224c, 2600 lb bags. Does anyone know the diameter of the plates that these sit on? I want to go ahead and get them cut.

_________________
It's amazing what you can accomplish when you don't care who gets the credit.-
Harry S. Truman


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:51 pm 
Offline
Global moderator
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 30, 2007 2:01 pm
Posts: 5137
Location: Hazel Green, Alabama
Dean, I have the 2500 bags and I think they are the same on the mounting surface. Mine are 4.5 inches across but rounded,. For the top bracket I used a 4.25 hole saw to make plates from .25 cold roll steel.. 8)

_________________
Image If your clutch ain't slippin,, you probably got it adjusted right!!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:04 pm 
Offline
WoodsBuggy Addict
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:04 pm
Posts: 1625
Location: Massillon, Ohio
madmike, do you know what the appx. diameter is on 3000# bags? anyone ever used bags off semi trailers? my buddies got a shit ton of them.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:50 pm 
Offline
Master fabricator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:55 pm
Posts: 2304
Location: S.W. Pa. Wellsville Water Cooled Chapter
[quote='JeffClay']madmike, do you know what the appx. diameter is on 3000# bags? anyone ever used bags off semi trailers? my buddies got a shit ton of them.[/quote]

I'm sure I don't know exactly, according to the Firestone book, some where between 9 1/2" to 10 1/2" overall dia. - 8 1/2 to 10" tall. both mounting plates are (should be) 6 3/8" dia.
Some additional info.
Firestone #20-2 10.4" max dia at 100psi min. height 4 1/4"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:58 am 
Offline
WB Videographer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:31 pm
Posts: 675
Location: Somerset, KY
additional info:
http://slamspecialties.com/s_compare_fv.html

_________________
Mike
Got Honda?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:28 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:50 pm
Posts: 62
got my air bags in today thanks to my uncle dean he welded them in for me

Image
Image
Image
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:22 am 
Offline
BOTM Winner
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:14 pm
Posts: 1262
Location: connellsville,pa
Cyle need to do the pics again . want to see them. how do you like them?


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 34 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Board index » Tech and Fab » Suspension and Chassis

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group