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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:56 pm 
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Just bought a buggy with drum brakes and want to change to a disc W/ E brake kit. It is titled a 1973, but how do I know that the rear half IS a 73 IRS ? I know it has IRS....just so you know that. :) Can you send me some pics or tell me how to tell the different years? Thanks


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:52 pm 
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I might be wrong but I do not think it matters. Anything between a 68 and a 73 should work. You will see different years from the vendors but I think it only changes the length of the e-brake cable.

Why are you using an e-brake? I only ask because you are very limited on your brake options if you want an e-brake. Most of the e-brake options will only give you a single piston caliper and a single piston caliper is not strong enough to stop a 33 inch tire going down a decent hill or hold the buggy on a hill if you need to back down.

If you must have an e-brake to be street legal, I would see if a Line Lock would work. Then you can buy a good set of disc brakes with 4 pistons. I really like Jamar but most people use Willwood.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:32 pm 
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A '73 tranny mount has 3 horizontal bolts to the trans and 2 vertical to the frame. I believe you are right MickyMouse about the length which shouldn't matter for a rail. It looks like this:
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:35 pm 
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Good info! Thanks, Where is a good place to get 4 piston brakes?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:07 pm 
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Southern Buggies is one of the site sponsors and is always a great place to start. Tim will not steer you wrong. He knows everything about buggies and will always help out.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:32 pm 
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http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/ ... mount1.jpg
This is the tranny mount I have. Year??


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:51 pm 
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I don't know for sure. Looks like it has been modified and welded to the frame which appears to be square thus changes the mounting mounts. I just installed my e brakes on my 73 torsion. The cables are too long which made me use a cable shortening kit.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:34 pm 
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Bigd correct, rockitv8, yours is pre-73.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:01 pm 
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Ok, so my next question is, what do I buy a rear brake kit for (year?) also what is a good kit to buy that is more than a one piston caliper without breaking the bank :roll: I want a good set up for trail and need E brake for the street. I am going to go down to Jim's Custom VW in Columbiana in the morning and try to get some info also. Thanks


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Jim is a good Guy wish he would become a sponsor here

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As far as linelock for e-brake. Ohio law says it has to be a MECHANICALY operated brake so any hydraulic operation of e-brake won't pass an inspection. The single piston caliper econo brake kits with e-bk would'nt stop a go cart safely :lol: :evil: :lol: I had those on my car and with both feet pushing the brake pedal they would not lock up a tire. My car is road driven and i have no e-bk. I put 4 piston wilwood calipers on my car and it is one of the best changes i ever made. Worth every dime :!: :!: :D

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:09 am 
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tw9294 wrote:
As far as linelock for e-brake. Ohio law says it has to be a MECHANICALY operated brake so any hydraulic operation of e-brake won't pass an inspection. The single piston caliper econo brake kits with e-bk would'nt stop a go cart safely :lol: :evil: :lol: I had those on my car and with both feet pushing the brake pedal they would not lock up a tire. My car is road driven and i have no e-bk. I put 4 piston wilwood calipers on my car and it is one of the best changes i ever made. Worth every dime :!: :!: :D

I never made it to Jim's yesterday. What Wilwood kit did you buy? Do I just tell them I need a kit for a Pre 73? also does yours have an E brake? Should I go with 4 lug or 5 ?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:36 pm 
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If the law requires a mechanical brake, you might need to use the single piston. However, I would just leave your drum brakes rather than going to a single piston caliper.

Maybe you can wait to get it inspected and then change the brakes.

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tw9294 wrote:
As far as linelock for e-brake. Ohio law says it has to be a MECHANICALY operated brake so any hydraulic operation of e-brake won't pass an inspection. The single piston caliper econo brake kits with e-bk would'nt stop a go cart safely :lol: :evil: :lol: I had those on my car and with both feet pushing the brake pedal they would not lock up a tire. My car is road driven and i have no e-bk. I put 4 piston wilwood calipers on my car and it is one of the best changes i ever made. Worth every dime :!: :!: :D

I never made it to Jim's yesterday. What Wilwood kit did you buy? Do I just tell them I need a kit for a Pre 73? also does yours have an E brake? Should I go with 4 lug or 5 ?


I did'nt buy a wilwood kit. I started out with the econo brake kit with e-bk.(first pic) These sucked so i bought wilwood calipers from summit. They offer them for different rotor thicknesses. I'm using the same rotors that came with the original kit i bought but made my brackets to bolt wilwood calipers.(second pic)

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