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Author:  chadriley 5 [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:01 pm ]
Post subject:  suspension travel or lack there of
my buddy brought his buggy over he just bought over it's a really nice buggy.it has an aluminum front beam and stock trailing arms and stock mounted shocks in the rear.i unbolted the shocks and jacked it up and it had no droop at all.so then i took big ratchet strap and compressed the suspension and i could only get 5" up travel.so that is 5" up and 0"down.i looks like it was setting on the spring plate stop with it setting on all 4 tires with no one in it.i have never had a buggy with stock trailing arms so i don't know much about them.do you think the torsion has been raised all the way up and thats why there is no droop.i told him we needed to install some 3x3 and if it the torsion is all the way up let it back down.this buggy was bought in texas so its a sand rail with big wide paddle tires.its 83.5 inches wide now so with 3x3 it will be even wider.so now he will have to get new tires and rims.do they make trailing arms that will lengthen wheelbase but not make it wider.i told him to sell it and find something more suited for Alabama terrain but he didnt like that idea.
Author:  MickeyMouse [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: suspension travel or lack there of
What is the angle on the CV joints? If the spring plates are set so tight that they are resting on the stops, that will make for a really hard ride. If the CV joints can handle some more angle, you can notch the bottom of the spring plate and get some more travel.

As for the trailing arms, Appletree sells 2x3 (2 inch wider and 3 inch longer) or 0x1 (Stock width and 1 inch longer) training arms.

I would also be concerned about running an aluminum front beam in the woods.

Good Luck
Author:  chadriley 5 [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:31 pm ]
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I will measure the angle when I get back home.this buggy is extremely light and I wonder also how the whole buggy will hold up.i can grab the beam and pick it up over my head and lock my arms out.is there a chance that because it is so light there isn't enough weight pushing down on the suspension and that's why its sitting on the stops
Author:  MickeyMouse [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:21 pm ]
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If the buggy is that light, the frame might be super thin walled tubing. If so, that will not hold up well off road and will defiantly not hold up in a roll over.

Do you know what kind of frame it is?
Author:  NRIbuggys [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:49 pm ]
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Don't notch the spring plate. If anything grind the stops off the torsion housing
Author:  davidk [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:36 pm ]
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IMHO do not grind the stops off the torsion they are there for a reason and serve a purpose just my 2 cents :D
Author:  NRIbuggys [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:16 am ]
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They make limit straps for a reason also
Author:  giveitagallon [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:31 am ]
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my stops and plates are ground ,if the travel is their why not use it :wink:
as said , put limit straps on and adjust as needed .
Author:  ridenrace6 [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:17 pm ]
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my one seater has the spring plates notched and haven't had any issues, if he wants to get rid of the aluminum beam I may interested in it for one of mine, what brand is it and does it have shock towers and adjusters?
Author:  chadriley 5 [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:41 pm ]
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yes it has serrated adjuster brackets and stock length shock mounts i will have to check on the brand
Author:  Dee Ell [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:49 pm ]
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Don't notch or cut anything without seeing what size torsion bars are in the car. You may want to reindex the bars so you don't have as much preload on them.
Author:  chadriley 5 [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:26 am ]
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i finally remembered to measure the cv angle and its 22 degrees
Author:  Orangecrusher [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:20 am ]
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"there a chance that because it is so light there isn't enough weight pushing down on the suspension and that's why its sitting on the stops"

that would be my guess. That and someone indexed the spring plates way too stiff. I'd pop em off before I started doing anything radical and just see how much indexing there is going on. A light buggy like you describe prolly wouldn't need any.

BTW how bout a pic? :mrgreen:
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