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 Post subject: "V" Bar Tire Groving
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:07 am 
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Im trying out my new tire grover and have a general Ideal what to do however I have some questions:

1) What are you guys doing with the bars them self on new and or used tires?

2) How deep are you cutting the plys (I currently have 6 ply)?

3) I have heard guys cut the plys down to the chords. It would seem to me that would make them much more prone to puncture? Experiences please.

4) The grover does not make a very large radius near the edge of the lug. I have concerns that this will cause the lugs to be torn in rough terrain?

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There are huge advantages to grooving out a set of "V" Bars as you call them. The pro's far outweigh the con's.
Most of us take out the rubber between the cleats all the way down to the cords. Do not go through the cords. This will affect the integrity of the carcass. Do not worry about leaving any kind of radius in front of the lug. It is actually better if the front of the lug is pretty sharp. This will yield the best traction. Leave a little strip of rubber behind the lug for some additional support. This will keep the lug secure and be less likely for it to tear.
The whole idea behind the process is to make the tire softer and remove weight. Softer equals more traction and less rotating weight will make the buggy perform better. It frees up lots of wasted horsepower.

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 Post subject: Re: "V" Bar Tire Groving
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:31 am 
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what about the tires being more puncture prone? and has anyone had experience with flippin the tires around and running them backwards?

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 Post subject: Re: "V" Bar Tire Groving
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:40 pm 
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i agree with roy , i dont think that the terrain we ride likes the tires to be cut to the cords though . i have seen alot of punctured tires in our terrain . i like to leave around a 1/8 inch of rubber . i like the undercut though.
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 Post subject: Re: "V" Bar Tire Groving
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:51 pm 
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I haven’t had any puncture problems with my 4 sets cut to the cords. Only problem I’ve had is pinching the tubes when hitting a tree. I took the tubs out of my firestones and never had a problem. They do go flat after about 2 weeks of sitting, I think that’s the bead locks leaking. Make sure you leave about 1” behind each lug, and cut as close to the front of the lug as you can. What type of V-treads are you cutting?

Damn I just noticed this is a thread from 2007


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 Post subject: Re: "V" Bar Tire Groving
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:57 pm 
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yeh it is old, i was 'lurking' through a bunch of old posts on here...
i used to have a 6x6 amphibious atv and it had small v tread tires on it mounted backwards. i allways assumed to cup the mud and water as opposed to the 'v' running the normal direction and pushing the mud and water out. i wondered if the 'v' tread run backwards on buggies would work similar?

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 Post subject: Re: "V" Bar Tire Groving
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:18 pm 
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I run my v cleats backwards. Works good in the loose coal dirt i run in. Works like paddle tires.


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 Post subject: Re: "V" Bar Tire Groving
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:56 am 
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:lol: :lol:
Should the beadlocks be on the inside when you run v treads backwards? :mrgreen:

Bet it will back up good!


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 Post subject: Re: "V" Bar Tire Groving
PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:58 pm 
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Ive found if you heat the area you plan to cut with a propane torch before using the grooving iron, it helps a ton....


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