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Author:  PhillipM [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Our wood/track buggy.

Have a shitload of pictures :lol:

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Author:  gasman [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

you spend as much time in the air as you do on the ground lol,cool pics we like pictures around here keep'em coming.is that a race you was running in? chad :mrgreen:

Author:  PhillipM [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

Yeah, we've got a few race series over here we can run in.
Mixture of wooded tracks, mud, gravel and grass mainly, with the odd stream bed to run up.

Author:  PhillipM [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

Bit of video from some testing the other week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj6jiFTUHxg

Author:  gasman [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

cool,looks like your having fun.post some pics of your buugy how its built what your running what kinda stuff you guys over there have,always like to see what others are trying or running.chad :mrgreen:

Author:  Terry fryer [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

That looks and sounds like a neat little ride. What kind of drivetrain are you running. Motor/tranny

Author:  PhillipM [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

gasman wrote:
cool,looks like your having fun.post some pics of your buugy how its built what your running what kinda stuff you guys over there have,always like to see what others are trying or running.chad :mrgreen:


I'll get some build details up over the weekend, but basic spec:

T45 (similar to your chromoly tube, but better for welding) frame/cage to MSA specs.
Renesis rotary engine - 268bhp
Renault UN5 transaxle
Mix of Fox + Bilstein dampers
1875lb wet weight inc. two people.

Ugly parachute-style mud-guards are regulation spec unfortunately!

Author:  gasman [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

i liked the sound of that thing just seemed to never top out just kept cranking and got up there fast to.cant wait to see some pics of this thing up close.chad :mrgreen:

Author:  PhillipM [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

gasman wrote:
i liked the sound of that thing just seemed to never top out just kept cranking and got up there fast to.cant wait to see some pics of this thing up close.chad :mrgreen:


It goes further than that, we'd just limited it to the stock 8.5Krpm whilst we checked everything was bedded back in and we had chance to flush the oil, rev. limit is 10krpm in race spec, but I don't like trying that on oil that's been stood all winter!

Author:  gasman [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

well it sounded bad ass til it hit the limiter.does it have good low end torque or mostly just top end for racing?chad :mrgreen:

Author:  PhillipM [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

gasman wrote:
well it sounded bad ass til it hit the limiter.does it have good low end torque or mostly just top end for racing?chad :mrgreen:



80% of max torque right from 2.5krpm to 8.8krpm, it's a beautiful engine, drops off a little after that, the extra revs are just so we can hold a gear mid-corner if need be, maximum power is at 9.2krpm.
From 3.6krpm to 7krpm the torque curve is table-top flat... :lol:

Bit more vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOLZIJv01C0&NR=1

Author:  kyjr.buggy1 [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

That's awesome! Looks like a blast! Keep pics and videos coming. :D

-Dakotah/koko

Author:  PhillipM [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

It used to be a 2.3 aircooled on a 3 rib, but it did that magic trick where it lets all the blue smoke out of the exhaust and starts making funny noises :D
And you don't want to see what's left of the gearbox...

Author:  Firebug [ Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

PhillipM wrote:
gasman wrote:
cool,looks like your having fun.post some pics of your buugy how its built what your running what kinda stuff you guys over there have,always like to see what others are trying or running.chad :mrgreen:


I'll get some build details up over the weekend, but basic spec:

T45 (similar to your chromoly tube, but better for welding) frame/cage to MSA specs.
Renesis rotary engine - 268bhp
Renault UN5 transaxle
Mix of Fox + Bilstein dampers
1875lb wet weight inc. two people.

Ugly parachute-style mud-guards are regulation spec unfortunately!


Seems like that power train might be a good application to a Hill Climber. Do y'all Climb over there? How does the Renault Transaxle compare to a VW 091?

Author:  PhillipM [ Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

Nothing as steep as you guys do, we do occasionally have a 1:1 slope to scramble up as part of a course, but never from a standing start (unless we've screw up :D )
Not certain about strength compared to the 091, but it'd probably be great for you hillclimbing guys, it's got a 5.85:1 diff. ratio, 8.25" crownwheel, 4-spider gears...
There are a few of the GT40 kit car guys using these with an aftermarket 3.44 differential and pushing 700-800bhp through them 8)

Author:  PhillipM [ Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

Few more pictures:

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Mockup with a scrap radiator

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Engine in + fabbed exhaust

First cooling setup, since altered, as oilcooler was about 3 times too small, now has bigger cooler, bigger hoses, radiator shroud, new fans and roof scoop and ducting:

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Making new rear bonnet:

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DIY adaptor plate + a little lathe work on the VW flywheel to make it fit the rotary + 2700lb pressure plate + 4 puck clutch.

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We had a few problems with red glowing bits where the brake discs should be, and flaming pads, so made up some new discs and matched them up with some custom Carbotech XP8 pads:

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We run electric powersteering, which our old 60amp scrapyard alternator wasn't keen on, cue melted terminal (and replacement with new 138amp alt.)

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Few extra cooling vents added for the event after that due to not being able to use full throttle without heat problems!

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What it looked like 2 weeks ago after the winter layup:

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Couple of days later we made our new wheels:

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And then headed to an event last weekend which is where the top 4 photo's are from!

Author:  PhillipM [ Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

I thought you guys might like to see another project we're working on too...


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Can never have too much horsepower... :mrgreen:

Author:  nitro_mudder [ Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

What tranny u using on the V10?

Author:  PhillipM [ Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

nitro_mudder wrote:
What tranny u using on the V10?


We built our own :D

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Author:  PhillipM [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

PhillipM wrote:
gasman wrote:
well it sounded bad ass til it hit the limiter.does it have good low end torque or mostly just top end for racing?chad :mrgreen:



80% of max torque right from 2.5krpm to 8.8krpm, it's a beautiful engine....


In fact, found this torque graph of the standard RX8 engines, they're a bit smoother and higher with a few tweaks and a straight through exhaust though:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g288/ ... ph_134.png

Author:  PhillipM [ Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

Little bit of video from an event early last year after we'd just got it together:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v89/R ... gyAWDC.flv

Lots of clutch slip, overheating problems (hence all the new vents and ducts now, it was on that tiny oil cooler in this one), rear damping is miles out, tyres are fooked, but it finished 1st in class anyway. :D

Should have some video from an onboard camera at the event next month, hopefully, although it's a nice clean gravel one on an airfield, no mud to play in! :(

Author:  bruce 1 [ Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Our wood/track buggy.

Looks good.

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