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Author:	jesse [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:28 am ]
Post subject:	seting my tortion
whats the best way to do this

Author:	frankenbuggy06 [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:10 pm ]
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a jack, chain, and a hammer. put the jack under the spring plate. take the chain and hook it to the lowest point of your jack to the frame. jack it up wiggle the torsion bar out. move the torion 2 or 3 splines jack it back up with the jack and knock it back in. u should be able to do it alone but a buddy helps. :] any questions u can call me330-9482817

Author:	A. Cole [ Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:48 pm ]
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Get an angle finder to make sure your the same on bith sides. If you set your angle different you ride will be softer on one side.

Author:	Griffin [ Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:22 pm ]
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The splines are different inside to outside so you can make smaller adjustments then just moving the spring plate around the outside set of splines if you are having trouble matching the angles on both sides. John

Author:	Firebug [ Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:22 pm ]
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Consider air bags,,,easy adjustment

Author:	jesse [ Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:34 pm ]
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thanks for the help i will call if i run into any problems

Author:	JeffClay [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:58 am ]
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i always just took the caps off, pried the spring plates off the stops and let er fling hahahaha. but like firebug said.... get airbags!!!!!!!

Author:	Odyknuck [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:20 pm ]
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Jeff your method is not only very dangerous its hard on the torsion bars. How do you get them back on?

Author:	JeffClay [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:29 pm ]
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i mark where the spring plate was and then move it a few teeth.... i dont run them anymore so it didnt make a difference to me, all it is doign is releasing tension off of them i dont see how it could be that much harder on them. its really not that dangerous, you stand away from it the only way it would hit you is if you were laying underneath of it.

Author:	hillaholic [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:06 am ]
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Before you jack the spring plate back up and hammer it in. Get 4 longer spring plate cover bolts and start the 3 you can get with no tension on the spring plate. Next jack the plate up just enough to get the 4th bolt started then hammer the plate in and tighten the 4 bolts. If you don’t do it this way you will more than likely have problem getting the 4 bolts to line up because there is so much tension on the plate it makes it lean towards the front of the buggy making the holes miss aliened

Author:	Odyknuck [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:12 am ]
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i mark where the spring plate was and then move it a few teeth.... i dont run them anymore so it didnt make a difference to me, all it is doign is releasing tension off of them i dont see how it could be that much harder on them. its really not that dangerous, you stand away from it the only way it would hit you is if you were laying underneath of it. To each his own I suppose. Your young and time will help lol. As far as the torsions go when they are released in that fashion they will over spring past there memory set and can cause stress fractures.

Author:	gustograber [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:16 am ]
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after i drive the springplate on i slide a 4 foot pice of pipe over the end of the torsion and sit on it. i can move it around enought to start the boats. seem to work good for me.

Author:	JeffClay [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:29 am ]
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i also do what brad does in a sort, darek (baja1965) told me about using all thread... cut long pieces of all thread to slide the caps on then tighten that up and remove and replace with bolts one at a time.

Author:	Bad Influence [ Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:33 pm ]
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Well I'm needing to do this also. Not only is the buggy sagging it's an inch off from one side to the other. Any more info that might be helpful? I can't seem to get the process right in my head. I'll just have to start taking crap apart and figure it out.

Author:	Kyle [ Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:49 pm ]
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the easiest method is to use a turnbuckle. unbolt the arm attach said turnbuckle to spring plate and other end to top shock mount. twist turnbuckle and raise the plate up off the stops then pry it out a bit and twist the turnbuckle down. it is not only the safest way to do it because it can never spring loose and one person can do it. set the angle you want and start one bolt on your end cap, then take a C clamp and clamp the end plate and start the other two bolts. crank it up over the stops with the turnbuckle and tighten down.

Author:	jesse [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:10 pm ]
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i was on a site a few weeks ago and people video documented what they did so if people needed to do it they could just watch and learn how maybe we should try this on here and make a spot for the how to vids

Author:	Bad Influence [ Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:37 pm ]
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Stupid question since I haven't put any of the suspension stuff together. I am in the process of trying this tonight. and was wandering exactly what all do I need to disconnect? I have one side jacked up with a jack stand underneath the torsion tube, the shock off and getting ready to unbolt the trailing arm from the spring plate but there is nothing there to catch the trailing arm so it will drop and was wondering if that will mess up my axles coming out of my transmission. Do I need to unbolt the axels also? Or will the drop hurt anything? It looks I should be able to swing the trailing arm plate arond far enough to slip the torsion spring plate past. Or do I need to take the whole trailing arm off? Just don't want to screw anything up since I just got it running. Appreciate a quick reply as I'm friggin with this tonight. Thanks

Author:	Firebug [ Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:24 pm ]
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You might try using a come-a-long to hold the spring plate up and then ease it down.

Author:	kybuggy1 [ Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:51 pm ]
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If you still need help, call me I'll try to talk you through it. PM sent Larry

Author:	Bad Influence [ Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:38 am ]
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Appreciate it Larry, Will pick back up on it in the morning. I think I know what needs to be done but wasn't sure how far I needed to tear the buggy down to get to my spring plate. Never did get pm though.

Author:	Bad Influence [ Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:29 pm ]
Post subject:	Setting Torsion
This is the setup I came up with. Worked extrememly well. It was easier than I thought it would be, just had to get into it. I tend to make things harder than they should be. Thanks for everyones help. Hope these pics clear it up for someone doing it for the first time. I ended up with about 34 or 35 degrees of angle with the tension released on the torsion.

Author:	diamonddav [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:06 pm ]
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im getting ready to do my buggy and i found a video series on you tube that i think would be real helpfull to some people, but i dont know how to show the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMxBolHOJR4 or maybe i do, this is a 4 part video, i dont know if anyone has seen this but it cleared up a few things for me as well as raised some questions, the angle on the spring plate, if you got the buggy jacked up isnt that gonna throw it off ? and what is about the maximum angle of the spring plate or axle angle that you would want before you start thrashing cv's and axles? i plan on notching the spring plates a little bit to get more height, there almost touching now but my buggy sets way to low in the back and my axles are almost straight, so im thinking i should be able to jack it up a good ways, maybe one click on the inner and maybe one on the outer?????? thi video has got to open some disscussion on the degree side of things,,,,chime in folks!! and if that link dont work type in lowering the vw type 3 rear, i know im not lowering but same difference

Author:	kybuggy1 [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:47 pm ]
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Yes, the angle will be different when you jack up the buggy. You have to "zero" the buggy, or use a little math. The little flat spot on top of end of the torsion, right above about center of the housing tube, there is a small threaded bolt hole in it usually, it needs to be at zero degrees. Either do that by adjusting your jackstands under the front of the buggy, OR you can just measure whatever angle the little flat spot is sitting at as it sits jacked up in the rear only and add (or subtract, depending on how your dial indicator is set up) this number to the degree of relaxed angle you are trying to set your bars at. When you are trying to measure angle on your cv's, you measure it AT the cv's. The angle of your cv joint, flat on top of it,perpendicular to the tranny vs the angle of the axle. The spring plate angle and trailing arm length determines the cv angle, but it is not a measurement of cv angle. These are the max safe angles I've been told, You may be able to run a lil more with clearancing work in the cv's: type 2 bus joints-18 degrees max 930's -24 degrees max Dont know what car or 934's will handle. If your axles are flat and you got 34 degrees on your plates, you must not have had your buggy zero'd when you set your torsion. Larry

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