firebug has air bags on a conventional buggy he can tell you what you need .It's fairly inexpensive
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| Author: | cyle [ Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:21 pm ] |
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i have a two seat buggy and would like to put air bags on the back. i am running a vw motor. so if anyone could help that would be great. i dont have a bunch of of money to put in it.[/list] |
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:26 pm ] |
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firebug has air bags on a conventional buggy he can tell you what you need .It's fairly inexpensive
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| Author: | Firebug [ Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:59 pm ] |
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there are some pics and info under "torsion bars" in "suspension and chassis" 
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| Author: | cyle [ Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:54 pm ] |
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this is what i have to work with 
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| Author: | DVS1 [ Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:04 am ] |
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You have all kinds of room. Maybe PM Madmike he has the same trailing arms maybe he can get some pics to give you some ideas. |
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| Author: | davehix [ Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:52 pm ] |
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Heres some pics of mine hope it helps. i just run a shrader valve and just air the bags seperatly.everyone does it different. 
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:25 pm ] |
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cool 
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| Author: | cyle [ Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:37 pm ] |
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http://proper-designs.com/catalog/produ ... ucts_id=68 would these be good air bags to use. cyle |
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| Author: | Firebug [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:53 am ] |
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I think that if you have the room those would be great. And a good price too. good luck
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| Author: | davehix [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:39 am ] |
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i run 2500 bags them should work. |
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| Author: | cyle [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:32 pm ] |
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do i still need to run shocks with the air bags cyle |
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| Author: | davehix [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:27 pm ] |
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Oh ya if not you'll be like a pogo stick. |
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| Author: | hillaholic [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:09 pm ] |
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Here is how I did mine. I'm running 2500lb bags I got from Dave Hix. I used 1.5 square tubing with .175 walls. I also ran down supports to the stingers, using 1 |
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| Author: | MadMike [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:38 pm ] |
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What I know about air bags is to use the largest bag you can get to fit. 3000# or bigger work the best because it takes less air pressure to maintain a given ride height. Set the center of the bag 1/3 the way down the arm from the inboard pivot OR MORE. The further down the arm the less air it takes to hold things up. The less air the softer the springrate, the softer the springrate the softer the ride. The top plate and bottom plate can be no more than 30 deg out of parallel and off-set no more than 2". Test everything before you weld it in for good. As far as the bags operation, put in a couple of shrader valves, find the ride height you want and call it a day, anything else your just adding weight. 
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| Author: | cyle [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:42 pm ] |
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thanks for all the pictures they will help a lot cyle |
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| Author: | Stevo [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:49 pm ] |
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WOW Are those archive pics? Looks like v-dub in the car |
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| Author: | MadMike [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:04 pm ] |
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We all had to start somewhere.
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| Author: | Stevo [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:06 pm ] |
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I know I'm learning right now, the hard way. |
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| Author: | D. Marks [ Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:09 pm ] |
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Cyle ordered a set of Firestone 224c, 2600 lb bags. Does anyone know the diameter of the plates that these sit on? I want to go ahead and get them cut. |
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| Author: | Firebug [ Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:51 pm ] |
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Dean, I have the 2500 bags and I think they are the same on the mounting surface. Mine are 4.5 inches across but rounded,. For the top bracket I used a 4.25 hole saw to make plates from .25 cold roll steel..
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| Author: | JeffClay [ Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:04 pm ] |
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madmike, do you know what the appx. diameter is on 3000# bags? anyone ever used bags off semi trailers? my buddies got a shit ton of them. |
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| Author: | MadMike [ Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:50 pm ] |
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[quote='JeffClay']madmike, do you know what the appx. diameter is on 3000# bags? anyone ever used bags off semi trailers? my buddies got a shit ton of them.[/quote] I'm sure I don't know exactly, according to the Firestone book, some where between 9 1/2" to 10 1/2" overall dia. - 8 1/2 to 10" tall. both mounting plates are (should be) 6 3/8" dia. Some additional info. Firestone #20-2 10.4" max dia at 100psi min. height 4 1/4" |
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| Author: | ky-bc [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:58 am ] |
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additional info: http://slamspecialties.com/s_compare_fv.html |
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| Author: | cyle [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:28 pm ] |
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got my air bags in today thanks to my uncle dean he welded them in for me 
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| Author: | davehix [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:22 am ] |
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Cyle need to do the pics again . want to see them. how do you like them? |
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