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| Author: | newbie26 [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Custom torsion problems |
How would I go about fixing the camber in my trailing arms. Passenger side is cambered quite a bit. Driver side not so bad but the distance between my swing plate to trailing arm is closer on the driver than the passenger. I can't even bolt up the swing plate. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | jimp [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
Sounds like the arms are distorted/ bent. Are they stock arms? Even with reinforcing, stock arms can twist or bend. I twisted a brand new pair of reinforced stock arms in one season. Of course ...I do drive like a complete idiot. |
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| Author: | bigDsmith [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
X2. Sounds like it's bent. Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
Are the trailing arms stock? I have seen people accidentally mount tube style trailing arms upside down.. that can create a problem with alignment |
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| Author: | newbie26 [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
No the arms are good. They are mad mike 3x3s. They were fine on a stock torsion. I got a new frame with a custom torsion and I think the trailing arm pivots are off some. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | MadMike [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
Hows about a couple of pictures of the inboard pivot clips. |
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| Author: | bigDsmith [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
I change my opinion... Those arms being MadMikes I seriously doubt they are bent. I have seen pivots bent, crack and torn off. Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Pettigo [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
Don't mean to high jack but, how can you set your arms ? Do you need axles and joints in or without them. I was doing to pull them to the same spot on spring plates and go from there. Or is there a simpler way? |
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| Author: | MadMike [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
Pettigo wrote: Don't mean to high jack but, how can you set your arms ? Do you need axles and joints in or without them. I was doing to pull them to the same spot on spring plates and go from there. Or is there a simpler way? You need to have the axles and cv's in to set your limits. I tell everyone to run a string line under the car centering it off the torsion housings. Measure everything from that string line. |
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| Author: | Pettigo [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
Thanks mike, from front of buggy to center of torsion housing, then to something behind buggy. ?? Measure off that string to each side towards flange? If so that makes sense. Just like squaring anything else |
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| Author: | MadMike [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
Pettigo wrote: Thanks mike, from front of buggy to center of torsion housing, then to something behind buggy. ?? Measure off that string to each side towards flange? If so that makes sense. Just like squaring anything else As long as the string runs don the center of the car. You can set the toe on the front end and the toe on the rear arms so your car doesn't crab down the trail. You can use a piece of extruded aluminum box tube about 36" long. Simply bolt it to the bearing housing and measure to it without a wheel/tire assembly. |
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| Author: | Pettigo [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
Gotcha thanks |
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| Author: | newbie26 [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
I will use the string method to straighten my rear arms out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | jimp [ Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
newbie26 wrote: How would I go about fixing the camber in my trailing arms. Passenger side is cambered quite a bit. Driver side not so bad but the distance between my swing plate to trailing arm is closer on the driver than the passenger. I can't even bolt up the swing plate. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1) Camber: Stock VW mounting of trailing arms is not actually trailing, but is more "semi-trailing". That being said, you can only properly check for neutral camber when the spring plate is resting (or just above) the lower stop. The wheel should be straight up and down. 2) Rear Toe: In order to get the proper thrust angle, the rear wheels must be set so that they are parallel to one another. This means that in most cases their centerlines will NOT be exactly the same distances from the torsion housing centerline. Also, try to get both toe settings to parallel the centerline of the car chassis. 3) Thrust angle: If the front wheels are set to neutral toe, then the front common centerline axis should be parallel to the rear common centerline axis in order to achieve a neutral thrust angle. |
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| Author: | Pettigo [ Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Custom torsion problems |
MadMike wrote: Pettigo wrote: Don't mean to high jack but, how can you set your arms ? Do you need axles and joints in or without them. I was doing to pull them to the same spot on spring plates and go from there. Or is there a simpler way? You need to have the axles and cv's in to set your limits. I tell everyone to run a string line under the car centering it off the torsion housings. Measure everything from that string line. MadMike thanks for string line trick. Worked great and I figured out that everything was right. Thanks |
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