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| Author: | OrangeCrush [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | rack and pinion |
What rack and pinion would you guys suggest too run it the woods? Stock ball joint beam with 16" v treads up front. I'm wanting something cheap enough that I can afford a spare but yet strong enough too run in the woods. I've looked at the Saco but with that price I couldn't afford a spare at the moment. I also intend too add power steering later down the road. What do you guys suggest? |
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| Author: | NRIbuggys [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
Look at my buggy build. I used a devil sr. Rack. 300 bucks but I don't think you will ever need a spare. It's been good so far. My bro runs a Saco and a few buddy's do to and they are hard to steer to me. I can drive mine with one finger. Drill your arms out on your spindle to a 5/8 hole and run hime joints |
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| Author: | buggybarn [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
Go with saco no spare needed . |
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| Author: | NRIbuggys [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
Well that's what danspteformance had them for aswell as a few others. So I thought it was fair |
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| Author: | NRIbuggys [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
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| Author: | jesse [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
My saco is going on 8 years and still like new and it turns easy get saco |
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| Author: | buggybarn [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
The devil sr is a good rack too I know a few people that run and like them. |
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| Author: | bluebuggy [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
You can get a gm rack on ebay for 65. Posted using the WoodsBuggy Mobile App |
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| Author: | OrangeCrush [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
I had someone suggest just move the stock steering box too the center and make new tie rods. Anyone ever done this? Would it actually help with my steering and make the boxes less prone too failure? If I do go this route, is there and certain spot that the steering joints need too be welded in or just wherever it works best? |
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| Author: | buggyben2027 [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:22 pm ] | |||
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One in center will work but 2 in center is b.a. chained together so they work together and strong Posted using the WoodsBuggy Mobile App
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| Author: | Sandbar Norm [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
bluebuggy wrote: You can get a gm rack on ebay for 65. Posted using the WoodsBuggy Mobile App I put a gm rack on mine from advanced auto. Life time warrantee. I think it was about $75. Check out my build. It may give you some ideals. Norm |
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| Author: | RaceBugg1098 [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
GM racks are wide spread racks. Not what you want as far as getting any travel out of your front end and keeping your tie rod angles right and preventing bump steer. |
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| Author: | buggybarn [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
Saco !! Or devil sr !! |
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| Author: | NRIbuggys [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
Devil sr. On mine Attachment: ImageUploadedByWoodsBuggy1380121267.405641.jpg [ 73.05 KiB | Viewed 8011 times ] Attachment: ImageUploadedByWoodsBuggy1380121283.286171.jpg [ 84.32 KiB | Viewed 8011 times ] Attachment: ImageUploadedByWoodsBuggy1380121300.043958.jpg [ 68.03 KiB | Viewed 8011 times ] |
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| Author: | NRIbuggys [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
Saco on my bros Attachment: ImageUploadedByWoodsBuggy1380121347.873250.jpg [ 80.82 KiB | Viewed 8010 times ] Attachment: ImageUploadedByWoodsBuggy1380121364.948117.jpg [ 101.31 KiB | Viewed 8010 times ] Attachment: ImageUploadedByWoodsBuggy1380121380.749592.jpg [ 86.54 KiB | Viewed 8010 times ] |
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| Author: | buggyben2027 [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:57 pm ] | ||
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| Author: | buggybarn [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
Saco on my orange buggy. |
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| Author: | diamonddav [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
i used the off road econo rack on mine with international tie rods on the rack and vw on the outers for a weak link   with aluminum tie rods  note in this picture the number of NOT grade 8 bolts that holds the bottom plate on, witch holds the gear into the rack! if you go this route it is a must that you tap more holes in the rack and plate and use grade 8 bolts! i now have 20 on the bottom of my plate , cause i had the original bust out on me when i was drunk and hit a tree and walked out of the woods at 7 in the morning  now next thing everyone bitches about it turning radius  heres the solution there are 2 stop bolts on the bottom of the plate that control the turn radius stop point. take them out and you have about an inch more of travel space on the bottom of the plate now! but you have to take a dremel or a grinder and grind out the bottom of the plate to allow the gear to travel more! and now the spot where the bolt went thru becomes your travel stop point! lots of us use this setup but i think im the only one who did the turn radius trick ,and there is definately a noticeable difference in how far it turns.i think mine is almost 1 1/2 to left and same to the right. its cheaper imo and its bullet proof once you do this to it. you can even tap the top and put you a grease fitting on if you want! i just packed the shit out of mine at the time cause who knows!! just giving you another option!! but on the center mount stock steering box, its the only way to go if you have to use it, it puts equal pressure to the box cause of the equal ,well closer to it, than a long as tie rod. i went thru 3 boxes in one year, and at 120 or so a piece, well you know  im sure this will help you or someone else that ever chooses to go this route
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| Author: | Sandbar Norm [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
RaceBugg1098 wrote: GM racks are wide spread racks. Not what you want as far as getting any travel out of your front end and keeping your tie rod angles right and preventing bump steer. Not all gm racks are end mount. The tie rods mount in the center on mine. I made a bracket to mount the tie rods under the rack and in the center of my frame. Norm |
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| Author: | OrangeCrush [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: rack and pinion |
OK guys, I'm going to wait on R/P until I install a link pin beam next year. As for now I have both a type1 and type2 steering box. I'm considering mounting the type 2 in the center so here's too my next question............. How do I measure and eliminate bump steer? Just want too ensure where I mount the box won't create large amounts of bump steer. |
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