i love it except it snatches my steering wheel alot i cant figure out why
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| Author: | goofydoofy [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
What r the pros and cons of rack pinion????? |
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| Author: | jesse [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
i love it except it snatches my steering wheel alot i cant figure out why
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| Author: | nitro_mudder [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
Rack and pinion tends to have the least amount of bump steer from my understanding, if mounted in the optimal location. Only downsides I am aware of are cost and powersteering add on cost. Personally I prefer the steering box setup, based on cost, strength, and ability to build it to the steering speed you desire. |
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| Author: | tw9294 [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
I,m using a gm steering rack and i love it. I have had no problems with it so far and still as tight as the day i installed it. I did have to play with mounting location a little to correct the bumpsteer i had initialy. |
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| Author: | goofydoofy [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
Yea I was thinking about getting one like this one http://www.appletreeauto.com/RACK-STEERING-KIT/ over winter but not sure what length I need |
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| Author: | RDB#3 [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
How many KY buggys have you seen with rack and pinion..... |
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| Author: | goofydoofy [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
I don't know none really cuz I just got my buggy and only had it out twice |
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| Author: | nitro_mudder [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
RDB#3 wrote: How many KY buggys have you seen with rack and pinion..... None that I can recall. I broke a stock box on mine first time out to Wellsville. One time is too often for me. Not to mention no power steering (which doesnt matter when going up hill, I know) and to many turns of the wheel to be quick steering. |
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| Author: | nitro_mudder [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
But If you just want the best hill shooter you want it light. So it really depends on which is more important, climbing the meanest hills or comfort and strength. Both are great in their own rights, but build it to be driven the way you want ride. Is this a single seater or a two seater for you and a passenger? What parks will you ride mostly? Any idea who you will ride with and how they ride? All factors to help make the decisions. |
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| Author: | DVS1 [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
goofydoofy wrote: Yea I was thinking about getting one like this one http://www.appletreeauto.com/RACK-STEERING-KIT/ over winter but not sure what length I need You DEFINITLY DO NOT want to use this rack at Wellsville. Street or sand...ok. But Wellsville will DESTROY that little thing. Just ask Jeff Clay...lol |
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| Author: | goofydoofy [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
nitro_mudder wrote: But If you just want the best hill shooter you want it light. So it really depends on which is more important, climbing the meanest hills or comfort and strength. Both are great in their own rights, but build it to be driven the way you want ride. Is this a single seater or a two seater for you and a passenger? What parks will you ride mostly? Any idea who you will ride with and how they ride? All factors to help make the decisions. Two seater ill be mostly riding in wellsvile ill be riding with wonnabuggy and giveitagallon so what would be my best option cuz last weekend my tie rod got bent so I was just sorta trying to look for something stronger then stock?? |
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| Author: | nitro_mudder [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
I would strongly recomend asking giveitagallon what his thoughts are based on who he rides with. Personally I wouldnt re-do the steering for a 2 seater at wellsville without power steering. Too many rocky twisty downhill trails to not have it. Now as to a rack or a steering box (like a gm truck) it is hard to say. But either way get it centered on your beam for the least amount of bump steer. |
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| Author: | jesse [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
go saco rack with himes ridding up their or like alot of our places down here a stock box will need to be replaced after a year and the rack has been on my buggy for 5 or more and still like new and those trw stock boxes are like 100 bucks or so and replacing one every year sucks |
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| Author: | goofydoofy [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
Anyone have an idea where I could get besides going to the junk yard and pulling it off of a car |
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| Author: | MadMike [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
RDB#3 wrote: How many KY buggys have you seen with rack and pinion..... More important question; How long will one of them KY "super" buggys last up here at Wellsville without one? Answer; About half as long as it took you to trailer it here. |
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| Author: | goofydoofy [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
So Jesse ur say go with a sack rake could u send me link to there website |
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| Author: | bige70chevy [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
i put an H D rack on my woods buggy about 4 years ago...still tight even with big 7.75 3 ribs on it...used international ends on rack and bug on outer...no probs even with bug outers...its been to d n k once,harlan a few times,haspin 100 times,wheelers,bug farm 100 times, etc and only thing i dont like is backing up it will rough you up a bit |
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| Author: | RDB#3 [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
MadMike wrote: RDB#3 wrote: How many KY buggys have you seen with rack and pinion..... More important question; How long will one of them KY "super" buggys last up here at Wellsville without one? Answer; About half as long as it took you to trailer it here. I know.....I wish i could have ONE vehicle that done it all. I've made several attempts but still have not managed to create one. |
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| Author: | nitro_mudder [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
RDB#3 wrote: MadMike wrote: RDB#3 wrote: How many KY buggys have you seen with rack and pinion..... More important question; How long will one of them KY "super" buggys last up here at Wellsville without one? Answer; About half as long as it took you to trailer it here. I know.....I wish i could have ONE vehicle that done it all. I've made several attempts but still have not managed to create one. Roger, that has been my goal on mine as I keep adding mods to it. All in all it does pretty good and other then the stock 6 rib being a weak link it has held up great the last two years. Now that being said, it wont win an A-class hill or climb the extreme hills the single seaters do. But not the type of riding I like to do anyways. Now if my daughters buggy turns out like I hope it should be a stronger more capable buggy then mine, and at a lower cost. |
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| Author: | giveitagallon [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
Doofy come down And steer the rack on the new buggy it is ten times harder to steer then a jeep Cherokee gearbox and the jeep box cost 15 bucks at pull apart ! When I ran the box I looped the power steering lines and took to jeep front steering set ups to make the Buggy steering and I loved it ! Just a FYI Jason Aka g.I.g |
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| Author: | jesse [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
http://sacoperformance.com/products.php?cat=7 |
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| Author: | goofydoofy [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
Jay im just trying to find a stronger steering or better then the stock tie rods that's all so if u have any input let me know what u think |
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| Author: | goofydoofy [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
Or which route to take and with the front end too I want lift it a little bit at least |
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| Author: | jesse [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
if you dont wanna spend lots of money and have fab skill then go with a box off like a s10 or something they will hold up forever too or whatever car or truck everyone suggest and as far as the more ground clearance go with longer arms on the front |
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| Author: | RDB#3 [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: pros & cons on rack and pinion steering |
More important question; How long will one of them KY "super" buggys last up here at Wellsville without one? Answer; About half as long as it took you to trailer it here.[/quote] I know.....I wish i could have ONE vehicle that done it all. I've made several attempts but still have not managed to create one.[/quote] Roger, that has been my goal on mine as I keep adding mods to it. All in all it does pretty good and other then the stock 6 rib being a weak link it has held up great the last two years. Now that being said, it wont win an A-class hill or climb the extreme hills the single seaters do. But not the type of riding I like to do anyways. Now if my daughters buggy turns out like I hope it should be a stronger more capable buggy then mine, and at a lower cost.[/quote] Its a good thing that guys like us get just as much enjoyment out of building and modifying these machines we build.....Lord know we spend more time working on them then riding...... |
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