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Author:  giveitagallon [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:59 am ]
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my engine started to puke oil after running it last sunday its comming from the sand seal a little ,a little from the dipstick hole and alot from the crank equilizer box i went to wellsville on labor day and last sunday was the first time its been out since , i just was going up to my buddys farm to get it out . when i was runnin around i smelled the fresh oil on exhaust it is not burnin it thru the exhaust its like it is building crank pressure and pushin out where it can . things i cked before i went up there i cked oil it was low so i filled it to the second line on the dipstick started it and ck again so it was not over full . i cked compresion it equel at 61 to 62 psi on all cyl. oil pressure is around 40 to 60 max on the gas and it does go down to around 5 to 10 on idle any help would be great because im clueless at this point.... thanks guys for any help
also the timing is 34 degrees advances on reves correct :?: im also going get some pictures of the buggy today and try to get them on the site :lol: :lol: we all love pictures not instructions right well at least me :lol: :lol:
Author:  gasman [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:29 pm ]
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maybe a broke ring or something building pressure in the block if it has blow back.that commpression seems a little low to me,might just be time to rebuild but you think it would be smoking if the rings were bad.chad :mrgreen:
Author:  giveitagallon [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:09 pm ]
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you think i should pull the jugs and ck the rings or wait and see if anybody has any more comments on the issue thanks jason
Author:  davehix [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:37 pm ]
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61 to 62 is your compression? i think your in need of a rebuild :shock:
Author:  giveitagallon [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:24 pm ]
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YEA IS THAT LOW FOR STOCK ENGINE AND IF SO HOW COME ITS NOT SMOKIN OUT THE PIPE COULD UNDERSTAND BLOW BY FROM RINGS AND LOW COMPRESSION BUT WOULDIN YOU THINK IT WOULD BE SMOKIN OUT THE PIPE :?: :?: :?: ILL RERING IT IF YOU GUYS THINK I NEED TO START THERE :!:
Author:  yankee [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:34 pm ]
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Had 1915 did the same thing was not smoking out the pipes,just pucked oil all over itself new pistons and rings runs like a new one
Author:  giveitagallon [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:44 pm ]
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YOU GUYS THINK I COULD GET AWAY WITH RINGS FOR NOW IF THE PISTONS LOOK GOOD AND HONE THE WALLS , TRYING TO SAVE MONEY FOR THE STROKER MOTOR WOULD HATE TO BUY PISTONS IF I DONT NEED TO BUT ASKING FOR YOU GUYS EXPERTISE THANKS JASON
Author:  moondog [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:43 pm ]
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in my opinion.... if u was looking 2 build a stroker anyways in the near future i wouldnt do anything 2 that motor. id run it like it is till it quite running and then start on the new motor. no since in puttin money into something ur not goin 2 b using..... but like i said thats just mt opinion
Author:  giveitagallon [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:47 pm ]
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just want to get 2 or3 more trips down to wellsville before winter
Author:  Andrew_Ha [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:52 pm ]
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i've nursed mine all summer with the same problem. just not quit as bad
Author:  bmoore [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:06 pm ]
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i had the same problem outta my 2180 this spring, re rung it and it runs like a champ.mine never smoked either just kept blowing oil out the crank case breather.
Author:  giveitagallon [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:15 pm ]
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WELL YOU GUYS PRETTY MUCH SOLD ME ON RERING ILL TEAR IT APART AND SEE IF THE PISTONS AND JUGS LOOK GOOD , ANY SUGGESTION ON THE BRAND OF RINGS AND HOW MUCH TO EXPECT THANKS JASON
Author:  bmoore [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:19 pm ]
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i bought mine from appletree.com and rings are not that expensive less than about 30 bucks will buy em and pay shipping
Author:  gasman [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:10 pm ]
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if you put new rings in it you should go ahead and put rod bearings in it.you dont have to split the case and its not going to cost you that much more.i have learned from experience that you build up compression with those new rings on old rod bearings chances are you are going to spin one.there is always the chance you wont but for 30 bucks id put them in while you got the jugs off and not take a chance on having to turn a crank later.it is to be safe than sorry.and if you cant afford thirty more bucks and 1hr or 2 of time then just buy oil and run it til it blows.chad :mrgreen:
Author:  Baddvw [ Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:06 am ]
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My old motor did that as well, it ended up having new jugs and pistons on it to fix the problem.
Author:  turboblue [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:51 pm ]
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$30 for a re-ring or $100-130 for new piston/cylinder kit........ :idea:

I'd jug it just because there is a good chance the cylinders aren't round anymore.
Those $30 rings may not solve anything.

As gasman said, rod bearing it too while it's down that far.
Not hard to do and it's only another $10-15.
Author:  Odyknuck [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:19 pm ]
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If you decide to do the rod bearings dont forget to mic up the crank journals in case its been ground.
Author:  hyde [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:11 pm ]
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Odyknuck wrote:
If you decide to do the rod bearings dont forget to mic up the crank journals in case its been ground.

Like they said . Mite be std .010 .020 .030 .040
Author:  turboblue [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:40 am ]
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Check the back of the bearing half for the size.
Surely it's had the right bearings in it all along....... :wink:

STD is standard.
.25 is .010" under.
.5 or .50 is .020" under and so on.
Author:  giveitagallon [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:55 pm ]
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put rins and bearings in her problem solved thanks guys for your help :) :)
Author:  Odyknuck [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:24 pm ]
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So what size bearings?
Author:  giveitagallon [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:44 pm ]
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stock size used to hold around 8 psi now its idling on 15 to 20 i also took the weber 34s off and put a proggresive on it runs so much better im heading down to wellsville this weekend to try it out thanks
Author:  passat2800 [ Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:05 am ]
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Hey! I can go out side right now to my son's buggy and stop up the ventilation coming out of the alternator stand and it will puke oil any means it can.Sand seal or not. Check to see if you have kinky hose (watch your language, get it :lol: )or a stopped up sponge in the breather box.And get rid of that worthless box. Let the hose point to the ground with a pcv valve stuck in it backwards.
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