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| Author: | ridenrace6 [ Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | ROD LENGTH AND JOURNAL SIZE???? |
couple of questions here first what length rod is most common for a 2332 and why, how does this affect performance or only effect compression ratio???? second are there any differences/advantages to using chevy journal over vw journal other than the diameter of the journals???? |
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| Author: | perrib [ Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ROD LENGTH AND JOURNAL SIZE???? |
I'd use a 5.5 CB H beam rod and DPR or DeMello Chevy journal crank. The chehy rod journal gets used to keep the case clearamcing down. An 86 crank with chey H Beam rods fit in a case clearanced for an 82 mm crank with stock VW clearanced rods. Even the cam needs less clearancing. You use deck height and head ccs to set compression. Here is a link to some tips when building a stroker. My post is about 5 posts down. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7283 |
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| Author: | ridenrace6 [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ROD LENGTH AND JOURNAL SIZE???? |
thanks perrib i knew the chevy was smaller and required less clearancing but i didnt know that it was that much difference in them does a 5.5 have any advantages over 5.4 or 5.6 performance wise or is it just a matter of preforance? mine is supposed to have a scat 84 vw journal in it not sure on rod length though and i was going to tear it down this winter and change cam and just check everthing out and thought i might change over to the chevy crank if it were any performance to be gained. how big of a chevy journal crank can i put in if it is really has the 84 vw crank in it now? |
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| Author: | chris38375 [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ROD LENGTH AND JOURNAL SIZE???? |
i think most of the cams u buy now are allready clearenced,the last engle 110 we got was ,,about a month ago |
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| Author: | perrib [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ROD LENGTH AND JOURNAL SIZE???? |
Every stroker engine is a custom build you have to check everything over and over as you go along. Variables are differences in cases dimensions, different diameter crank counter weights from manufacturer to manufacturer. Same with rod style. One rod may clear the case better than another but tap the pistons and/or require more cam clearancing. After 86 mm you have to go very slow when clearancing the top of a stock VW case as it gets thin on top where you have to clearance for the extra throw of the rods. Shorter rods make more power at lower rpms. Longer rods make more power at higher rpms. The shorter the rod the more stress. A great example is the old Pontiac 400 and 396 Chevy engines after 5500 rpms they had a tendency to spit out rods. If your running 7,000 rpms and up use a longer rod. For most of us stock length rods work up to 82 mm stroke, 5.5 for 84 mm, 5.6 for 86 mm. I have not built a 90 mm stoker yet, it look like the cam will get very narrow in some places. If its a stock length VW rod you may want to get them magnafluxed or get 5.5" rods. I lost a Carillo stock length rod with an 84 crank and a FK 10 style cam. It only cracked but it still lost the crank journal. |
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| Author: | turboblue [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ROD LENGTH AND JOURNAL SIZE???? |
Quote: I have not built a 90 mm stoker yet, it look like the cam will get very narrow in some places About .700" usually gets those to clear. |
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