Good rule of thumb is a dollar per cc.
That's just for the long block.
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| Author: | buggymaster [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | building a motor |
how much would it cost to build a 1776 |
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| Author: | fortydegnorth [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
Way too many variables that we don't know. What do you have to start with? What is the exact buildup that you are after? I don't mean 1776, I mean what carbs, pistons, jugs, case......? Do you want chrome everywhere or are you going to reuse existing parts. Generator or alternator? What exhaust? Full flow oil? I would suggest talking to an engine machine shop and run through what you have and what you want. A simple guess, maybe $2500. Maybe more maybe less. I spent $3500 on a 1915 but should have been able to do it for half that, I got carried away with fancy crap that didn't make it run any better, just shinier! |
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| Author: | Roy [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
Good rule of thumb is a dollar per cc. That's just for the long block. |
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| Author: | bevans37095 [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
buggymaster wrote: how much would it cost to build a 1776 The same as a 1915 unless you already have parts for the 1776. |
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| Author: | khaney01 [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
bevans37095 wrote: buggymaster wrote: how much would it cost to build a 1776 The same as a 1915 unless you already have parts for the 1776. Same thing I was thinking. |
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
why a 1776 why not a big motor |
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| Author: | nickschlemer [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
rockrockets1 wrote: why a 1776 why not a big motor Yeah like a SUBARU |
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| Author: | kybuggy1 [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
nickschlemer wrote: rockrockets1 wrote: why a 1776 why not a big motor Yeah like a SUBARU YEAH!!! They are practically FREE!! 2-400 for a motor with 100k plus miles that was probably never monkeyed with, $400 or more in an adapter sysyem, $100 or so in wiring harness work or several weekends going crosseyed trying to do it yourself, experimenting endlessly trying to get the suspension to work right for hillclimbing, spending a minimum of a couple hundred bucks if you go the cheapest way and use air bags. And if you want it to make real power, upgrades for subies are nearly free ,too, right?? No need to worry about reprogramming the computer when you make major changes, everyone knows how to do that in their own garage. Why would anyone not do a subie, especially on a budget???  Tim ( and maybe some other or our advertisers) can build you a reliable good running 1776 OR 1915 for a grand if you got a good block and carburation. Then u know what u got, not something some overstressed soccer mom has been flogging on and skipping oil changes in for 10 years. Larry |
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| Author: | vwtravis [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
kybuggy1 wrote: nickschlemer wrote: rockrockets1 wrote: why a 1776 why not a big motor Yeah like a SUBARU YEAH!!! They are practically FREE!! 2-400 for a motor with 100k plus miles that was probably never monkeyed with, $400 or more in an adapter sysyem, $100 or so in wiring harness work or several weekends going crosseyed trying to do it yourself, experimenting endlessly trying to get the suspension to work right for hillclimbing, spending a minimum of a couple hundred bucks if you go the cheapest way and use air bags. And if you want it to make real power, upgrades for subies are nearly free ,too, right?? No need to worry about reprogramming the computer when you make major changes, everyone knows how to do that in their own garage. Why would anyone not do a subie, especially on a budget??? Tim ( and maybe some other or our advertisers) can build you a reliable good running 1776 OR 1915 for a grand if you got a good block and carburation. Then u know what u got, not something some overstressed soccer mom has been flogging on and skipping oil changes in for 10 years. Larry 
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| Author: | Firebug [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
OK,,for $1400 you can go suby,,,that includes a spare engine you can swap out in a day. Us suby guys got the suspension figured out,,,and with the suby its just getting broke in good at 100k miles,,but AC is cool too
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| Author: | Baddvw [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
Might as well go for the stroker motor, it only cost about $200-300 more than the 1915 cost to build. |
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| Author: | nickschlemer [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
Sorry to offend you VW guys  I just like reliability. Wiring and adapter plates are one time buy.. Also you can find these easily with alot less miles than 100,000 mine only has maybe 60,000 on it.. So if you add all your repair cost and time in with your VW motor im still sticking with Subaru. Find a VW that never needs tuned, gets good gas mileage and has 300hp oh yeah and dont leak oil then call me..
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| Author: | nickschlemer [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
kybuggy1 wrote: nickschlemer wrote: rockrockets1 wrote: why a 1776 why not a big motor Yeah like a SUBARU YEAH!!! They are practically FREE!! 2-400 for a motor with 100k plus miles that was probably never monkeyed with, $400 or more in an adapter sysyem, $100 or so in wiring harness work or several weekends going crosseyed trying to do it yourself, experimenting endlessly trying to get the suspension to work right for hillclimbing, spending a minimum of a couple hundred bucks if you go the cheapest way and use air bags. And if you want it to make real power, upgrades for subies are nearly free ,too, right?? No need to worry about reprogramming the computer when you make major changes, everyone knows how to do that in their own garage. Why would anyone not do a subie, especially on a budget??? Tim ( and maybe some other or our advertisers) can build you a reliable good running 1776 OR 1915 for a grand if you got a good block and carburation. Then u know what u got, not something some overstressed soccer mom has been flogging on and skipping oil changes in for 10 years. Larry And if you dont have a good block and carburation fork out another 1500 to 2000.. Also you wont have to worry about a oil change it all drains out on the floor for you daily..
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| Author: | vwtravis [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
nickschlemer wrote: Sorry to offend you VW guys I just like reliability. Wiring and adapter plates are one time buy.. Also you can find these easily with alot less miles than 100,000 mine only has maybe 60,000 on it.. So if you add all your repair cost and time in with your VW motor im still sticking with Subaru. Find a VW that never needs tuned, gets good gas mileage and has 300hp oh yeah and dont leak oil then call me..I have one and it dont use a drop of gas
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| Author: | vwtravis [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
Counter weighted crank $200, rods rebuilt $40, bearings $90, pistons/cyl. $200, Cam $70, heads $500,new gasket set $15, push rod tubes $30, block machined $75-200, 200 propane mixer $120, model E reg. $140, junkyard turbo $50, 9.5-1 1915cc @10psi = 200hp |
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| Author: | fortydegnorth [ Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
What does subaru or any other manufacturer of engines have to do with a price for a 1776 Volkswagen? I guess if he wanted suggestions on engines to use he might have worded his post differently like, what engine should I use?.
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| Author: | kybuggy1 [ Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
fortydegnorth wrote: What does subaru or any other manufacturer of engines have to do with a price for a 1776 Volkswagen? I guess if he wanted suggestions on engines to use he might have worded his post differently like, what engine should I use?. You are right. Sorry, buggymaster. How did this thread get off track anyways??......oh yeah , someone brought up subies. LOL Larry |
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| Author: | harleyhunter05 [ Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
it really depends on what you have to start with. If you have a good running 1600 and just want to try and get more out of it , you can go up to 87 or 88mm jugs and pistons without having the block bored out . I would stay with 87's cause they last longer. If you are starting from scratch , i'd try to go with a 1835 or 1915 for just a little more $$ in machine work. Tell us what your starting point is to get a better answer. |
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
vwtravis where can you get a model-E and mixer at for that price I will take one |
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| Author: | Buckmaster [ Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
Hey buggymaster,i have a 1915 longblock i could sale you at a fair price and save you alot of time and money.All you will need is shroud,tins and carburation.Or i could sale you a complete buggy with a good running 1915,3-rib,extended arms,etc for what it would cost to build a new complete 1915.let me know if i can help in anyway. |
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| Author: | JeffClay [ Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
this is aircooled forum, not watercooled, we don't care about subarus in here. anyways buggymaster, build a 1915, it will be the same price and you will be much more satisfied with the power. my two cents |
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| Author: | nickschlemer [ Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
Sorry to get off course there.. 
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| Author: | Baddvw [ Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
nickschlemer wrote: Sorry to offend you VW guys I just like reliability. Wiring and adapter plates are one time buy.. Also you can find these easily with alot less miles than 100,000 mine only has maybe 60,000 on it.. So if you add all your repair cost and time in with your VW motor im still sticking with Subaru. Find a VW that never needs tuned, gets good gas mileage and has 300hp oh yeah and dont leak oil then call me..Mine does not leak oil at all (YET) and I am running this motor for 2 years now and not a drop yet, still running same spark plugs and still running strong!! I think it is reliable as long as you change the oil daily, run good fuel through it, and use it wisely. I like to keep things simple, not have to mess with the wiring harness, ECM, fancy adaptors, engine mounts, radiator, and most of all I think they are too big, too bulky and too heavy for my taste. Just my $0.02 Remember, I may go for the larger engine soon maybe around 250-280hp VW-powered, I know its $$$$, but why not? I am all about horsepower whether I need it or not. So this is a Air-cooled forum, so here it is Sorry about putting this on here, but I needed to say it.
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| Author: | kybuggy1 [ Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
You took the letters right off my keyboard, Chad! Except "change the oil daily" I think that might've been a brain-fart!I change mine once every other year whether it needs it or not.  VW based strokers ARE reliable as can be expected from anything that gets beat on like we do to them. Maybe some people have the wrong people building their VW engines  If I wanted a boat anchor hangin off the back of my ride, I'd drive a barge thru the woods. LOL Larry |
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| Author: | Roy [ Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: building a motor |
My stroker VW engine is going on it's 7th season of riding and it still has not been apart. The heads have never been off. it has only had one tune up and only two valve adjustments. It does not leak a drop of oil. VW power is a fantastic choice for a woods buggy. BUT, this guy is asking about a 1776, not a stroker. Ask away if you have any more questions man.......................... Roy |
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