im not a fan of anything empi and webers arent tops on my list either.. get a set of dellorto's and be done with it
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| Author: | Kolurblind [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
Currently I have dual Weber 44's on street eliminator heads. I am wanting to replace them with EMPIs however my intakes are ported and polished and I wasn't wanting to get rid of them. I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not EMPI's would bolt up to the intakes that I have? Or do I have to replace the intakes too? |
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| Author: | ridenrace6 [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
if they are the same type carb such as "IDF" then yes they will interchange, but personally I would much rather have a used weber than a new empi |
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| Author: | JeffClay [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
Dude, April Fools was a few weeks ago. Rebuild and tune the Webers, or be prepared for a long trail of headaches. |
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
JeffClay wrote: Dude, April Fools was a few weeks ago. LOL.. I thought the same thing when I was reading this... KEEP THE WEBERS........ |
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| Author: | MadMike [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
It's amazing on the number of people that didn't get the memo. EMPI = JUNK |
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| Author: | darrell [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
I have bought 2 sets of Empi Carbs and they worked really good .Got a set on a 2500 now and it runs great Empi does have a lot of junk parts out there tho. Like they said if you got the webers rebuild them . a lot of people run the Empi carbs and like them it's all in the tuning . Not trying to sell you on Empi just saying i have used both . |
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| Author: | vwtravis [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
MadMike wrote: It's amazing on the number of people that didn't get the memo. EMPI = JUNK Yes! All that didn't please send your empi junk to Travis 4863 Kellys creek RD charleston WV And I will dispose of them properly Thanks. |
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| Author: | Kolurblind [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
ridenrace6 wrote: if they are the same type carb such as "IDF" then yes they will interchange, but personally I would much rather have a used weber than a new empi How can i tell if the webers are IDF? I'm still new to all things vw. Also, the webers are killed beyond just being able to rebuild them i believe, however I do plan on keeping them and possibly having someone rebuild them that knows how to (I don't). |
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| Author: | Kolurblind [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
Jeffclay, MickeyMouse, MadMike. I have heard a few bad things about EMPI's but most of it has come from what I've read on this site. However, all of my friends that I ride with are running EMPI's and they all work fine. SO far my Webers have been the headache. |
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| Author: | reno2165 [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
im not a fan of anything empi and webers arent tops on my list either.. get a set of dellorto's and be done with it
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| Author: | Aaron Creech [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
The empi hpmx carbs are fine. In fact several of the big time engine builders including ACE who does primarily carb work says that the EMPI carbs are BETTER than the webers. I have built many engines using the empi carbs and they run fine. |
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| Author: | diamonddav [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
i have a weber single on mine and it works great ,but if i were to have to buy duals i would go with the empi's probably. and there way less expensive  (notice i didnt use the word "cheaper" here  anyway heres a video for everyone in case you havent seen it! should create alot of opinions whether it be good or bad! but thats why were all here rite!
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| Author: | Red Barron [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
If you are going to buy the EMPI carbs PM me and I will buy your Webers. When you receive your new carbs take them apart and check the jetting. I have seen duals shipped with different jets in the same carburetor and different jets in each carb in a set of duals. The best resource for dual carbs be it Dells or Webber or Empi the Dellorto tech book is great for pre-tunning them before installation and for jetting charts and trouble shooting information. And a Syntonization tool for getting the carbs synced. I ran the same set of 48 Dellortos for almost 20 years on a 1976, 2276 and a 2800 914 engine never any problems following initial set up. |
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| Author: | holeman [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
i am running a 44 idf weber on my 1835 never had any problems with it knock on wood.been running it for 3 years now. |
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| Author: | buggybarn [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
Got a bran new pair of empi 44 duals. Junk right out of the box. U can't compare a weber to an empi . So the empis are on the shelf and webers is all that is here. |
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| Author: | jayrod [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
Tear the webers down, boil them, then get rebuild kits. They cant be that bad. When I bought mine they showed up and the insides looked like that had been laying in a mud pit for 20yrs. Good cleaning an rebuild youll be fine. your going to havta tear the empi's apart and clean them soon as ya getm anyways. |
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| Author: | reno2165 [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
Kolurblind wrote: ridenrace6 wrote: if they are the same type carb such as "IDF" then yes they will interchange, but personally I would much rather have a used weber than a new empi How can i tell if the webers are IDF? I'm still new to all things vw. Also, the webers are killed beyond just being able to rebuild them i believe, however I do plan on keeping them and possibly having someone rebuild them that knows how to (I don't). mexican fred just sent a set of crusty, wore out dual 44s out to ACE and they look like a brand new set of carbs... the turn around on them wasnt very impressive but the work they did was
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| Author: | Kolurblind [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
reno, who or what is ACE? any idea on their pricing? |
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| Author: | reno2165 [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
Kolurblind wrote: reno, who or what is ACE? any idea on their pricing? i think ACE is located in utah.. i believe everything cost a little over $500, which seems like alot but if you buy a set used for $400 and them have to get them rebuilt with kits, your looking at the same money  beings you already have the carbs, i think it would be your best bet.. from what i saw, the work they do is second to none
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| Author: | Kolurblind [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
reno2165 wrote: Kolurblind wrote: reno, who or what is ACE? any idea on their pricing? i think ACE is located in utah.. i believe everything cost a little over $500, which seems like alot but if you buy a set used for $400 and them have to get them rebuilt with kits, your looking at the same money beings you already have the carbs, i think it would be your best bet.. from what i saw, the work they do is second to none $500 just to have them rebuilt!?!?! WOW. Thats why I'm looking to just get a set of EMPI's. I'd be paying about the same price. I was hoping you'd say around $100 lol |
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| Author: | reno2165 [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
thats what i thought at first, unfortunately big names call for big $$$.. ACE is a well reputed and established company, no doubts that you are definitely getting what you pay for 
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| Author: | Red Barron [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacing Webers with EMPI's |
500 dollars to rebuild carbs? Buy an echo tech, subie or Honda you will have less in a complete engine than you will in a set of carbs. Or better yet a Holley projection two barrel on a custom tunnel ram intake. |
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