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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:04 am 
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I'm looking to buy a new set of heads for my 2387 . Just wondering what i should go with ? I'm looking at going with the cb 1409 heads 044 ultra wedge ported 46x37mm what do u think? Will be only riding in the woods.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:45 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc5NcPjO ... detailpage
im not sure i did this rite but this buggy also has a 2387 with those same ultrawedge port heads

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:05 pm 
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Any idea what cam and compression your gonna run? What carbs? Also how much rpm do you plan to turn this engine. Personally for a woods motor I would use a set of the CB Super Pro heads. They have alot better port velocity to help with low end torque and are still capable of producing 200HP with the right combo.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:47 pm 
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Im just throwing this out there....My personal preference is SuperFlow heads with the small valves, VZ25 cam...because out of all the cams available it has a (wider) power range than most cams,44 on the carbs and 1 1/2" for the exhaust,D.U.I. ignition,10.1 on the compression. Building power is one thing, just be sure to spread it out or your not going to have it somewhere along the trail.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:02 am 
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Im running a vz15 cam 10.1 compression and delordo 45 carbs wanting to turn about 6500 max rpm ..


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:04 pm 
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mike ball wrote:
Im running a vz15 cam 10.1 compression and delordo 45 carbs wanting to turn about 6500 max rpm ..


the buggy in the video also runs a vz15 cam with dual dellorto 45s... his buggy easily turns 6500 and then some..

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:43 pm 
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Ported S/E or 044 super pro Will make more TQ then the wedge ports or S/F . For cam I like the FK 43 with 1.4 rockers or W120 and 1.25 With the 10 to 1 and 45 carbes


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:39 am 
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im with hyde and aaron on the heads, super pro or street eliminators would be my suggestion with either 42 x 37.5 or 44 x 37.5 valves, also i think you can call and get either one upgraded to the vw650 springs and titanium retainers when ordering them, its cheaper that way than having to upgrade those components a year or so later. the pro gas heads come with these upgrades but the flow rates/port work is a little different than the super pro heads

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:59 pm 
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Are you running ratio rockers with that cam? If you are,and plan to keep that cam combo,do yourself a favor and get the VW650 spring upgrade.There is no way that a standard dual spring can control the valve at 6500 RPM. My personal opinion is you should scrap that cam and put in something more suitable for a BIG engine with a nice set of heads.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:18 pm 
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Aaron what cam do you perfer ? I bought a set of 1458 Cylinder Heads - 044 Ultra Mag Plus (44 x 37.5mm) 94mm Bore .


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:27 pm 
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With those heads I would use an Engle FK-7 or an FK-43. Both with at least 1.4 rockers.The FK-7 will be easier on the valvetrain but may give up a little torque compared to the FK-43.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:27 pm 
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Aaron Creech wrote:
With those heads I would use an Engle FK-7 or an FK-43. Both with at least 1.4 rockers.The FK-7 will be easier on the valvetrain but may give up a little torque compared to the FK-43.

X2 I like the fk 42 or 43 over the fk7 for TQ and HP . I have seen 190 TQ on the dyno with a Fk 43 at 4000 rpm in a 2387


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