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 Post subject: what size???
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:21 pm 
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Just got a buggy, got a good deal on it because the motor is locked up
So I'm planning on making it a 1679 and some port work, it has a 3
rib bus tranny my question is how big of a tire can I run without
killing all my acceleration? By the way I live in PA so we have hills
everywhere

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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:48 pm 
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I also live in PA, we run St. Clair and Trevortom, I ran my 1600 with a 3 rib and 31x15.5x15 v treds with no prob, albeit I couldn't do the big coal hill but I still had plenty of fun.
So a 31" would be as big as I would go, any bigger and you would touch the torsion bar cap if your running car IRS. If you have a bus torsion u could prob get away with a little bit bigger tire but that would start to affect your gearing. Unless u go bigger motor :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:17 pm 
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I would agree, a 31 would be the best size. You can either cut some boggers or get V-Treads

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 Post subject: Re: what size???
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is there anyway to do away with that torson bar sticking out?


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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:10 pm 
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V-treads are a little out of my price range at the moment. Have a set of bfg's all terrain. Any way I could cut those and make them better or any other tire suggestions?

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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:24 am 
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Kenny get us some pictures of it :)



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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:07 am 
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jasona wrote:
is there anyway to do away with that torson bar sticking out?


Replace IRS torson with swing axle torsion bars and spring plates

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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:29 am 
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I will in a few days it's still over at the previous owners house. Oh btw it's a real barn find! Guy I know has a barn that's half fallen in I went over to get him a hand moving snow and I found it and asked about it

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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:37 am 
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We run in st claire a lot to and those v treads are heavy as hell. My 33x14 cut boggers weigh less then my 12.50 tractor tires


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 Post subject: Re: what size???
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Black beauty,
U runnin aluminum rims? Mine don't seem to bad, I am about to pull my wheels off I will weigh them..

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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:34 pm 
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Nope I just got steel wheels I had 31x15.50 denmans they felt heavy
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 Post subject: Re: what size???
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What size engine do you have black beauty?

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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:30 pm 
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i am sure a lot of folks will tell you go with as big as engine as you can afford, mine had a 1641 on it and i am running steel wheels and 31x15.5x15 vtreads.
and the longer hills and real steep hills i have issues with it bogging down. and no recovery on a hill.
i would at least go to a 1776 or a 1835, but if you are going to go that, might as well go 1915 as i am.
there is a lot of good mechanics on this site that can help you with the particulars.
and lot of folks that have a lot more experience with buggies and engines than i do.
good luck which ever direction you go in. and post some pictures of that barn find! :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:34 am 
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Big D. I am running 1915 with 6 rib


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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:20 pm 
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29 v treads vs 31 15.5 v treads.

Here is a good comparison for tire sizes. Watch the two videos and you can see the amount of power it takes to turn them with a 6 rib. There is a 3 rib on 29s in the last video.

1641 fly cut heads 6 rib with 29 V treads on the four seater. Ecotec on the yellow one.



31 15.5 v treads on four seater. 1600 stock engine on green two seater with a 6 rib.




Yellow rocket is Bubbachains.
Orange buggy is 1641 flycut heads 3 rib on 29 v treads.
My four seater 6 rib on 31 15.5 V treads.
You can hear a big difference in rpm between Eric's and my engine while climbing this hill. 1641s are identically built by myself they just have different sized headers.


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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:22 pm 
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Now get that buggy together and lets go to Scrubgrass 8)


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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:21 pm 
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Definitely gonna get her put together so we can meet up at scrubgrass 8)

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 Post subject: Re: what size???
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I just wandering about running some taller tires. I got a 1915 with 3 rib. I got 30.5 x 11.5 Swampers now and it crawls great. I don't hill climb just trail ride. So I need ground clearance more. I was thinking about running 33's or 34's. Probably skinny, 10.5 or 11.5 wide.

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 Post subject: Re: what size???
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Mine has a bus torsion so it allows me to run taller tire if you can stock arms on a beetle torsion 33s might be damn close can you put up some pics of your buggy


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 Post subject: Re: what size???
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Get er together Kenny for wellsville !!


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 Post subject: Re: what size???
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:32 am 
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I will have to do torsion eliminators. I think 31" is the tallest with that torsion. I was just concerned about power. You can see my buggy on Janurary's BOTM

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 Post subject: Re: what size???
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Oh yes that is a nice buggy but all my friends that ran the three rib says it nice on power with a 1641 so a 1915 should have no problem


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If I come down to Wellsville davidk you gotta come up to scrubgrass with me and ibanidiot2 :mrgreen:

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