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 Post subject: Suby motor mounts
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:18 pm 
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Hey Everyone,
Im getting ready to make some lower motor mounts for my Subaru. I was wanting to come off the bottom of the rear removable cage. I have upper and lower tranny mounts but i wanna go with the overkill and not chance it.. I know ive seen it done before. I was wondering if someone could take some detailed pics for me of there setup.. Also what are you using for the actual mount.
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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:23 pm 
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Hey Everyone,
Im getting ready to make some lower motor mounts for my Subaru. I was wanting to come off the bottom of the rear removable cage. I have upper and lower tranny mounts but i wanna go with the overkill and not chance it.. I know ive seen it done before. I was wondering if someone could take some detailed pics for me of there setup.. Also what are you using for the actual mount.
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I can get some for you, i know PlumberBill has some in his build post.

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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:33 pm 
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Appreciate it.. I think it was plumberbills i seen before but it was a long time ago. I get most my work done in the winters after deer season.. It will be a three year project in february..

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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:16 pm 
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As of now I'm not running them, haven't for the last 3 years. Not saying you don't need them, just saying it hasen't become an issue yet. When I go dry sump I'll add them in then.

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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:41 pm 
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What is dry sump. Ive never heard of it on a suby. Can someone explain me this in lamens terms. Whats the pros and cons of that setup..

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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
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All Subaru motors are wet sump. Large oil pan that the oil pump in the motor pulls oil from to lube the engine.
Dry sump is a small oil pan, almost no oil pan at all, with an external sump tank, and an external oil pump.
The dry sump pump is made in stages, suction or scavenge sections and a pressure section.
Since we deal in such extreme angles, keeping the oil pump pick up in the oil can be a problem.
Dry sump insures oil pressure at almost any angle, most you wouldn't want to be at anyway.
Kinda involved system and it's expencive, a new 3 stage pump, cheapest I can find is $650.

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MadMike wrote:
All Subaru motors are wet sump. Large oil pan that the oil pump in the motor pulls oil from to lube the engine.
Dry sump is a small oil pan, almost no oil pan at all, with an external sump tank, and an external oil pump.
The dry sump pump is made in stages, suction or scavenge sections and a pressure section.
Since we deal in such extreme angles, keeping the oil pump pick up in the oil can be a problem.
Dry sump insures oil pressure at almost any angle, most you wouldn't want to be at anyway.
Kinda involved system and it's expencive, a new 3 stage pump, cheapest I can find is $650.


$650 :shock: I kinda thought it was something like that. Just wasnt sure.. Sounds like a good concept just overkill i would think. How long are we really at extreme angles..

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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
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I've had my oil light on going down hill enough to make me know I'm gonna do it. Ya I know your thinking down hill just turn it off, no motor = no power steering , I really like my power steering.
This would be a good topic in Water Cooled

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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
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I did it to oct botm. It is air cooled though :? but I have 8 qts in the system instead of the 3 plus from stock form. an i can climb trees much better now :lol: When you get into dry sump oiling you are getting pretty much out of the main stream and thing get pretty obscure,I.E. hard to find info on and limited suppliers. But thanks to woods buggy contributers things get done.


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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:24 am 
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OK guys sorry to be a dick but can we get back to some Subaru motor mount ideas and pics :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
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Ya, come on guys, back on the subject :roll:

Sorry Nick I don't have any photos to help ya out with.

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I have my ej22 hanging like a VW but the eg33 being about a hundred pounds heavier and a cylinder longer I figured I would fab some up and hang it off the rail tubing,,not the skid tubing..but I have not got that far yet...I am watching this topic close myself. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
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here ya go nick

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kendel wrote:
Check your pms,you got what you aked for? Now come on over and give me a hand moving some ubber heavy stuff :mrgreen:


What do you need moved. I'll help you load that bridgeport in my truck :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
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plumberbill wrote:
here ya go nick

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Thanks plumberbill. Whered you get those plates that are bolted to the motor??

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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
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Thoes are the stock motor plates.

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Thoes are the stock motor plates.

you are correct sir. bolts right to the motor, thick enough to weld on, what more can ya ask for (a machinist to make them special for ya)

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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
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Anyone got any of those layin around??

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Anyone got any of those layin around??

i'll check tonight and let ya know

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nickschlemer wrote:
Anyone got any of those layin around??



I have a pair however I have not decided if I will be using them or not. All depends on how the dry Sump oil pan mounts look. I will know in the next week.

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trace the motor mounts on to some paper and send it to me. lets see what we have to work with. thanks all

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plumberbill wrote:
nickschlemer wrote:
Anyone got any of those layin around??

i'll check tonight and let ya know


Yeah let me know..

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 Post subject: Re: Suby motor mounts
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Here is the mounts. They are hard to see cause of the mud. I used the suby plate like Bills but there is two 1/4 plates to mount it. Sorry not the best pic.
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