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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:53 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:15 am 
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I think this is the best baby chain design I can come up with.It has bus to bus cv's with bug axles.An adjustable aluminum 1"x6" block has a solid shank in it pertruding out 1"dia.(sawwed off a 1" grade 8 bolt). On this shank rides a bronze bushing that is centered inside a 14 tooth sprocket.An old bus stub axle flange is centered and welded to the sprocket.All cv bolts are redrilled for grade 8 ,3/16" bolts.Then the chain goes back to a bus 71-79 bearring housing. 2 cv outer rings are used as spacers and are welded between the stub axle and 33 tooth sprocket. The inner cone space of the bus stub has to be welded up or it will shear off under the tremedous new torque.33t divided by 14t is a 2.35:1 torque multiplication. The whole transmission is multiplied by 2.35.(Just speaking to someone that is totally new to this). It is a VERY narrow set up because of the bushing riding inside the 14t sprocket verses 2 wheel bearings riding 6 or 8 inches away.Where a good bearring may carry a 4000lb load, a bushing will carry 12000lbs(according to what the MSL book said about comparisons). Bad thing bushings wear out under long periods of speed. They cost $4 each and can be changed by removing the cv joint to the side.With TSL 40's Supper Swampers it has 80" of width.And 23.5" of ground hiegth under the diff just sagging on the floor.Over 10 years ago I took the high speed grinder and narrowed both torsion bars about 1/8" all the way around.Most said they would break.It rides like a cloud today.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:45 am 
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It has a Biuck 3800 motor v6 borred out to 3884. Big valve heads from some old sporty model 3800.2 barrel ford carb off a 351 Clevland, which does NOT burp gag choke or smoke under different angles. Some Jeep people use them.Flat top pistons. A towing cam.Homemade header. And a Vanagon stock clutch with a lg pressure plate.It may not be big on hp but has some bone crushin torque.Do not run a heavy motor without LONG trailing arms or chains or stock clutch !Too many un commanded suprise wheelies and destoyed trans.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:42 pm 
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What is the large flat washer behind the front sprocket and also what is top speed? Does this mean you are going to leave the Continental differentials at Pic-a- Parts?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:37 pm 
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This is a whole different buggy here. It had 4rear tires. Not the red buggy with the Lincoln rear end. Ita a yella one seater

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:52 pm 
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The lg aluminum washer is a backup incase the sprocket wanted to slide off the 1" steel shank.Haven't driven this new set up yet,but it is straight , true and strong. 2nd and 3 rd will be the climbing gears.How is ol Bubbachains doing?I looked for the old post a few weeks ago but could not find it.This set up is built by just stacking 1"x6" aluminum plates and shiming when neccessary with slivers of old sawsall blades.Steel plate 3/16" in some places.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:41 pm 
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Bubbachains works even better than I imagined and is very dependable.I had to make my wheels with 2 1/2" of back space and with a twelve inch wide tire it is 80" OAW. You are correct in that the engineering challenge is to keep it from spreading out any wider. The sprockets Marty sold me were only a few teeth different so the reduction isn't like yours. However,my Ecotec is perfectly happy being matted with the rev limiter set at 6500 so the wheel speed is closing in on second gear, that is why I was wondering what your wheel speed was going to end up at. Good luck with Der Panzervagen!


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:33 pm 
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WHERE CAN i FIND THE OLD BUBBA CHAIN POST. i LOVE THAT SET UP ASWELL!


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:54 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:57 pm 
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I love old type 3 front ends. They have adjustable torsion bars just like the rear and have super long arms and disc brakes.


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Here is the link to the Bubba Chain Post..

http://www.woodsbuggy.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=109&jfile=viewtopic.php&f=5&t=11387&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=babychains

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:40 pm 
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I found the old Panzerwagen (6 wheeler) post.

http://www.woodsbuggy.com/index.php?opt ... gen#p89169

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:35 am 
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Wow! That's it. That set up will walk all over a brick wall because the back tire would mash the front tire and MAKE it grip up the wall and then the front tire would pull the back tire over. It was soft and majic.Throw rocks at me but it has incredible no slip grip and bone crushing torque and 23" of ground hieghth.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:19 pm 
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Imagehere bis the back side of a type 3 front end that has adjustable torsion bars longer arms and disc brakes.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:54 pm 
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Just imagine if you would have wrapped those double tires with a set of tracks off a skid steer. :D

You would have had a Panzerkampfwagen without the armor. :shock:

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