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 Post subject: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:43 am 
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I bought this Manx from a guy in Blythe, CA a few hours away It was in pretty bad shape and I paid way too much for it but it had all the basics I was looking for, four seater full length pan, A-arm front end, built bus box, 3x3 rear end, etc
But it had a 1600 Dual port that barely ran. I could tell by how much they trimmed the the back and configured it, it had water pumper in it before, I guess he sold the the motor swap and threw the 1600 in it just to sell it

So I picked the thing up and brought it home
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Took it for a drive and it died and made me walk home

Towed it home, tuned it and cleaned it up and putted it around like that for a couple months
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Rolled some bedliner on the inside pan and the sides of the tub
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Took off the little rusted steering wheel and got something a little more comfortable and put the GPS out of my boat in it. Got a cool map for the Lowrance from some guy on the internet and it shows all the trails in my area Anza Borrego State park all the way to Glamis and Mexico. Changed out the shift rod bushing and put an Empi shifter, that helped shifting a bunch. Then I beefd up the body lift kit with PVC spacers under the bolts
Got a little cheap tach from Autozone, you can see I'm doing everything as cheap as possible
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I made a top out of shade cloth from Lowes, thing is getting a little better every time I do something to it
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Took it to Gonzaga Bay in Baja and got buried instantly, tourists came out of the resort and said hurry, the tide's coming in... thank you, I'll do that... might go a little faster if you helped :D
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I have a vinyl plotter and cut some racing stripes for it, I'm starting to like the way buggy is turning out
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Got some BFG AT 33x10.50's on the back, threw the 31's on the front
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LED lightbar and some 5150 color changing LED whips
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Up at the cross at Ocotillo Wells on Thanksgiving weekend, believe it or not there's thousands of campers and offroaders down there in that sea of dust
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This is about the last you'll see of the 1600, I sold it to fund the Ecotec package
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Bought an Ecotec motor package with harness, ecu, etc from AlphaFab... good price I think
There was a mix up with the shipping company and they wouldn't be delivering it to my place in Borrego Springs so I had to go pick it up in Imperial Valley
And oh yeah I changed trucks and football teams... so long Chargers, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!
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I cut the cage off to get the motor in there, the radiator is an aftermarket three core for a jeep cherokee
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Damn that's a tight fit!
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Got it bolted in with some cutting here and there, put a Kennedy stage 1 pressure plate and one of their Kush lock disks
working on the wiring and figuring out the fuel and exhaust system

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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:48 am 
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Motor is all in and buttoned up

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I'm not real happy with the intake I put it but it was quick and eady for now

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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:51 am 
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I'm having an issue with fuel pumps, I've gone through two already and I haven't driven it yet

They start out ok but then start getting hot and making whining noises
I have free flow of gas to the pump so I'm not sure what's going on, any ideas?



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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:50 pm 
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Is your ground as close to the pump as you can get it? Could be alot of resistance otherwise.

Also how big is your fuel pump relay? My walboro pump kept cooking 30 amp Bosch relays over time so I switched it to a 60 amp. Could be being underpowered.

Is your tank vented? Could be slowly pulling a vacuum in the tank and burning it up.


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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:36 pm 
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Thanks for the reply
I could move the ground closer and try it
The relay came with the package and is in the alphafab relay box, I'm guessing they got it right
I though it was the tank or something so I put a 5 gallon gas can above the pump and ran a line from inside the gas can to the pump and ran the return back into the gas can... same issue

I'll try the ground


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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:48 pm 
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Nice looking car and I would agree on the ground being as close to the pump as possible. Bad grounds have caused more problems.....

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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:01 pm 
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What fuel pump are you using? I know the Eco guys have no luck with the e2000 pumps


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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:47 pm 
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Psycho Alpha wrote:
What fuel pump are you using? I know the Eco guys have no luck with the e2000 pumps


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I'm using an MSD

The ground didn't fix it, I was talking with MSD and they think the LS1 regulator/filter is restricting it and causing it to heat up

There's just a trickle out of the return and they said there should be a stream


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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:09 pm 
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I run a walbro 255, summit regulator,100 micron prefilter from summit, and all AN hose and fittings. Sounds like you have return Problems. You can't dead head a pump.


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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:29 pm 
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Kinchloloe King wrote:
I run a walbro 255, summit regulator,100 micron prefilter from summit, and all AN hose and fittings. Sounds like you have return Problems. You can't dead head a pump.


Do you have a steady stream coming out the return?
Is yours a 2.2 with the return on the rail or a 2.4 that needs a regulator with a return like mine?
What the summit regulator part number?

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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:55 pm 
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stevie wrote:
"........... so I put a 5 gallon gas can above the pump and ran a line from inside the gas can to the pump and ran the return back into the gas can... same issue

I'll try the ground

That's what threw me off, sorta eliminated the return system or regulator.

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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:28 pm 
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MadMike wrote:
stevie wrote:
"........... so I put a 5 gallon gas can above the pump and ran a line from inside the gas can to the pump and ran the return back into the gas can... same issue

I'll try the ground

That's what threw me off, sorta eliminated the return system or regulator.

yup me too, when that didn't fix it I just said aww crap, now what :D


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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:57 pm 
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stevie wrote:
Kinchloloe King wrote:
I run a walbro 255, summit regulator,100 micron prefilter from summit, and all AN hose and fittings. Sounds like you have return Problems. You can't dead head a pump.


Do you have a steady stream coming out the return?
Is yours a 2.2 with the return on the rail or a 2.4 that needs a regulator with a return like mine?
What the summit regulator part number?

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Yes, I have a 2.4 eco. The summit regulator part# sum-220066 and the walbro part# gsl392bx. I never actually watched my return running in a bucket. but at an idle not under load It should have a steady stream for what ever fuel its not using.


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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:07 pm 
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Did you run the pressure side into the gas can or the suction? If you run the pressure side in the bucket and the pump is quiet you have a restriction or a return problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:45 pm 
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Yeah I had it all hooked up right, I ended up with a delphi pump from Autozone and an Aeromotive bypass regulator
So three fuel pumps and two regulators later it's running
I took it out, it runs good but it backfires hard on deceleration



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 Post subject: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:20 pm 
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That's not the first time I've heard that the alpha setup backfire. I believe one guy blew his intake apart because of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:50 pm 
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Psycho Alpha wrote:
That's not the first time I've heard that the alpha setup backfire. I believe one guy blew his intake apart because of it.


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Did he ever figure it out?


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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:18 pm 
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Most have them dyno tuned


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 Post subject: Re: Ecotec Manx Project
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Good looking car.


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