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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:04 am 
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predatorbuggy Has donated a basic frame. .


i suppose that to be the winner of the "A" class?

and since this thread is titled "the hill climbs" i got a question about the points

this is hypothetical but very realistic at least in my opinion, but what happens to a guy that qualifies/runs in the upper part of the "B" class at one hill climb, but (due to the hill layout or number of entrants or a regular "A" class driver/buggy qualifier is just having a bad day or any number of reasons for that matter) and he qualifies/runs in the "A" class at one of the other hillclimbs, how or what will that do to his points

for example, last year i ran in the top 4 of the limited class everytime except 1 and due to a busted tranny i couldnt make my 2nd run and got a dnf and no points for that race and still got 2nd in the points due to the fact that we were "locked in to the same class every time, but there were times, that due to different circumstances as mentioned earlier, if it had been a qualifying type setup i would have been in the "open" class but running in the bottom of that class, and then at the end of the year with only 1 or 2 good "limited" class finishes and bottom of the "open" class finishes what would have happened to my points, just bottom of the points in both classes?

maybe that made enough sense to explain what im asking if not ill try again


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:24 am 
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predatorbuggy Has donated a basic frame. .


i suppose that to be the winner of the "A" class?


and since this thread is titled "the hill climbs" i got a question about the points

this is hypothetical but very realistic at least in my opinion, but what happens to a guy that qualifies/runs in the upper part of the "B" class at one hill climb, but (due to the hill layout or number of entrants or a regular "A" class driver/buggy qualifier is just having a bad day or any number of reasons for that matter) and he qualifies/runs in the "A" class at one of the other hillclimbs, how or what will that do to his points

for example, last year i ran in the top 4 of the limited class everytime except 1 and due to a busted tranny i couldnt make my 2nd run and got a dnf and no points for that race and still got 2nd in the points due to the fact that we were "locked in to the same class every time, but there were times, that due to different circumstances as mentioned earlier, if it had been a qualifying type setup i would have been in the "open" class but running in the bottom of that class, and then at the end of the year with only 1 or 2 good "limited" class finishes and bottom of the "open" class finishes what would have happened to my points, just bottom of the points in both classes?

maybe that made enough sense to explain what im asking if not ill try again


In the points there is only one class. All the points you accumulate adds up to a total.

We did the points just in-case something like what you explained happens. In the points you were only going to win a trophy. But now we have a sponsor that is going to donate a Frame of your choice to someone that enters the events.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:21 pm 
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then why do you even have separate classes then????????

why not just make one hill everybody can climb and do away with the qualifying so it wont take so long???????

there is only gonna be a handful of buggies that has a chance of winning anything at the end any ways if it is only an "a" class points winner!!!!!!!

if there is not gonna be anything for the "b" class to win they are just punishing there equipment and donating there money to the "a" class points winner!!!!!!!!

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i was wonderin the same thing


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:51 pm 
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they are just punishing there equipment and donating there money to the "a" class points winner!!!!!!!!


As I explained in the previous post. There is no money that will be going to the points champion. And there is no B class or A class in the points. The classes are just for the races only. That is why you can run in A class in one event and B class the next.


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i understand.It dont matter which class your in,someboddy in the b class can have more points than some body in the a class at the end of the day.


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point scale is linier. No one gets less points then someone who finished in a lower class. Everyone who makes it to the "A" class gets more points then anyone in "B" class. Yes the overall winners will be the top dogs in "A" class. And the odds are the majority of us don't have a shot at winning the championship. Sink some serious money in your rig and ride steep A#% hills every weekend for practice and you can be in the running. I can't afford the practice from here, lol. But then my chances of getting to compete in nascar probibly arn't any better. And I believe part of the reason for having two classes with a qualifier is so the A class can run a harder hill. Based on the quallity of the Alabama hill if everyone would have ran the A-Hill we probibly would have had alot more DNF's. Hope that helps clarify some of it.

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i understand.It dont matter which class your in,someboddy in the b class can have more points than some body in the a class at the end of the day.


i dont see how that is gonna happen when the "a"class winner gets 100 points and the "b"class winner only gets like 40 points, do the math it aint gonna happen!!!!!

now maybe if the "b"class winner got 100 points and went down like the "a"class then yes that could happen but not like it is now :roll:

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then why do you even have separate classes then????????



if there is not gonna be anything for the "b" class to win they are just punishing there equipment and donating there money to the "a" class points winner!!!!!!!!


How can you say that when you placed in the money in the B class your self? The B class is for those that don't hit the A hill and still have something to compete for. :roll:

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Each person has the same opportunity to get in the A class at each event. If we did an A and B championship then you would be locked in a class.

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then why do you even have separate classes then????????



if there is not gonna be anything for the "b" class to win they are just punishing there equipment and donating there money to the "a" class points winner!!!!!!!!


How can you say that when you placed in the money in the B class your self? The B class is for those that don't hit the A hill and still have something to compete for. :roll:


im just saying that the "b"class should have something to look forward to at the final like the "a"class does, hell they are trying just as hard as the "a"class :roll:

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Each person has the same opportunity to get in the A class at each event. If we did an A and B championship then you would be locked in a class.


thats the way i think it should be so that you know which hill you will be climbing before you enter

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then why do you even have separate classes then????????



if there is not gonna be anything for the "b" class to win they are just punishing there equipment and donating there money to the "a" class points winner!!!!!!!!


How can you say that when you placed in the money in the B class your self? The B class is for those that don't hit the A hill and still have something to compete for. :roll:


im just saying that the "b"class should have something to look forward to at the final like the "a"class does, hell they are trying just as hard as the "a"class :roll:


The prize money will be much bigger at the finale. We are looking for more sponsors if you have something mind to add to the B class .

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ridenrace6 wrote:
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Each person has the same opportunity to get in the A class at each event. If we did an A and B championship then you would be locked in a class.


thats the way i think it should be so that you know which hill you will be climbing before you enter


Read the rules,,,you qualify at each event regardless of how you may have qualified at a previous event. These events have a qualifying ..What class would you be in at D&K if you weren't at Stony?

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The prize money will be much bigger at the finale. We are looking for more sponsors if you have something mind to add to the B class .[/quote]

well i dont think im gonna donate one of my buggies and i dont think nobody would want one of broke 3 ribs

i just lost 5k on my jeep because i needed the money to pay of some bills so cas is out of the question also

i just really dont think yall understand the "little" man/"b"class drivers side of this

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heres a sugestion, give the predator buggy to the "a"class points winner and give the trailing arms to the "b"class winner :idea:

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You are mistaken,,we created the B class just for those that aren't in the A class. We are not asking you to donate your buggy but we would love for you to find a sponsor willing to contribute to the B class.

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heres a sugestion, give the predator buggy to the "a"class points winner and give the trailing arms to the "b"class winner :idea:


there is not an A class points winner,,,just a points winner,,,4 places. The A class has money prizes for top 4 places as does the B class.

We are always seeking sponsors for prizes. If you would like to be on the committee you must participate in several workdays this year to be on the committee next year. We would love to have you in the committee.

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Firebug wrote:
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heres a sugestion, give the predator buggy to the "a"class points winner and give the trailing arms to the "b"class winner :idea:


there is not an A class points winner,,,just a points winner,,,4 places. The A class has money prizes for top 4 places as does the B class.

We are always seeking sponsors for prizes. If you would like to be on the committee you must participate in several workdays this year to be on the committee next year. We would love to have you in the committee.


well then give the "b"class winner 100 points and start down like the "a" class to make it fair, if not then like i said there is only a handful of buggys gonna be in the run for the points

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I explained in the previous post. There is no money that will be going to the points champion. And there is no B class or A class in the points. The classes are just for the races only. That is why you can run in A class in one event and B class the next.[/quote]

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then whats the point in having points if you get nothing for being the leader at the end of the season. and if b-class dosent get anything at all then why have that also just put everyone in a-class atleast the ones in the b-class could have a chance at getting something maybe but as it is now if your a b-class driver you go all that way with no chance for getting anything so why dose it exsist im confused on this

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the person with the most points at the end of the year should get the money cause it shows they came to all the events and and did good in every comp

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then whats the point in having points if you get nothing for being the leader at the end of the season. and if b-class dosent get anything at all then why have that also just put everyone in a-class atleast the ones in the b-class could have a chance at getting something maybe but as it is now if your a b-class driver you go all that way with no chance for getting anything so why dose it exsist im confused on this


i agree there is no need for a class separation and "b"class points cause only a handful stand a chance in hell, it just seems awfully one sided to me

they told us at stoney that part of the entry fees were being held out for the championship but even if they are adding that to the pot for the winner of that days race then why are they even keeping a points system if there is not some kind of a prize for the points leader

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the person with the most points at the end of the year should get the money cause it shows they came to all the events and and did good in every comp


so are you saying it should all go to "a"class?

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This statement seems odd for someone that got prize money because they were in the B class:

" i agree there is no need for a class separation and "b"class points cause only a handful stand a chance in hell, it just seems awfully one sided to me"




Taken from the rules tab at the top of the page:
Championship Points

1. Each driver must be a WoodsBuggy.com member to be awarded points
2. Points awarded for Class A drivers: first 100, second 95, third 90, fourth 85.... all the way until 60 points, all other drivers in Class A get 60 points each.
3. Points awarded for Class B drivers: first 50, second 45, third 40, fourth 35.... all the way until 10 points, all other drivers in Class B get 10 points each.
4. Championship Point Winner will be determined by the Total Points from the best 4 events (at least 3 different parks)
5. Championship Points Winners will receive a Trophy and Bragging Rights (No Money)

Ridenrace and others brought up some good points. At first the committee did not want to dictate where someones gifts were distributed. We felt that was the right of the donors. But after much thought we decided to try to convince those sponsors to provide their gifts to be raffled off to all those entering regardless of Class or place. Some stipulations were put into place. You must attend and participate in at least 3 events, and be present at the finale to win.

Some of the donated items, such as a Predator frame and Chuck Jones trailing arms, will be awarded to members from either class to Anyone entering at least 3 events. Everyone will get one chance for every event they enter. Any person can get up to 8 chances . You must be present at the finale to be eligible. In addition the prize money will grow by 10% of all the previous events at the finale.

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