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| Author: | khaney01 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
I've been watching several woodsbuggy videos on youtube while sitting in the office waiting for the housing market to recover. Something I have heard said in a lot of them is very dangerous advice for beginners. When a new guy gets fouled up on a hill and is a little crossways you always hear someone shout "grab the left (or right) cutting brake!!!" This may be the appropriate thing to do but if they are so green that you have to tell them that, then they won't know what to do next. When you pull the cutting brake and mash the pedal you trap most of your pressure to that wheel which results in only one wheel braking. When backing down a hill, one wheel braking is a disaster waiting to happen. In order to get both back brakes equalized you have to do something that is completely against your instincts. "Let off the brakes." You must let off the cutting brake and the pedal at the same time then push the pedal again. If you have to tell someone how to back off a hill (not because they can't see, but because they just don't know how) that cutting brake is their worst enemy. Some guys will argue about this but I have seen it many times, a buggy flying down a hill backwards with one brake locked and the other freewheeling. Sometimes they make it, other times they roll. It is dangerous advice for a new guy who is probably scared already. Take it easy on the new guys, let them play on baby hills until they get their wheels under them. Show them play banks that they can run up on and practice feeling their buggies balance point as they back off. When they can raise the front end slowly and let it back down slowly they are getting close to being able to feel it anywhere. Something short, steep, and clear of any trees is ideal. The idea is not to make it up, just to run up and put just their front wheels over the edge so they get some seat time when things aren't all aces. |
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| Author: | khaney01 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
The problem is not getting them to release, it is in getting the other wheel to hold as well. I'm not sure how it works but somehow the pressure doesn't equalize when you let off the cutting brake. I've yet to see one that didn't do it. It may be our "hillbilly engineering" but I bet most everyone here would notice it if they were to try it. |
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| Author: | khaney01 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
If that is the case it is a VERY common problem. I have seen a bunch of wrecks because of it so it must not be very common knowledge. IF you know to expect it, it isn't a big deal anyhow, a quick tap of the brake and you are good. Thanks for the info!  The rest of my post about new guys is still good info to use though...... |
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| Author: | tanner2803 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
another thing is dont say left or right its really confusing there left or my lett ...... needs to be driver ... pasenger that way there is no mistake unless your from euroupe or where ever they have them weird cars..... |
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| Author: | khaney01 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
tanner2803 wrote: another thing is dont say left or right its really confusing there left or my lett ...... needs to be driver ... pasenger that way there is no mistake unless your from euroupe or where ever they have them weird cars..... You may be one of the ones that I saw in a video. Climbing a little dirt bank with a ditch, got hung, everybody screaming grab the left cutting brake, got out of the ditch and then rolled? Seems like i heard the name Tanner on the vid....I may be wrong. |
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| Author: | tanner2803 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
no your right that was me..... i had rolled there earlyer but i look at it as you have to learn some how........ |
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| Author: | Firebug [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
Tanner, you are my Heroll,,,returning to the scene of the crime to make sure you are filmed for prosperity. |
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
they tell me all the KY boys are the best drivers in the world  Did you listen to any of them
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| Author: | stroker2332 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
You need to go back and watch and LISTEN to the video again. If you listen he was told the right thing to do. We were going to strap him off and he said NO. He had already rolled once before on that same hill. His whole reason for doing it the second time was to roll again for the video camera and he had fun doing it. By the way Tanner left is left and right is right. 
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| Author: | khaney01 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
stroker2332 wrote: You need to go back and watch and LISTEN to the video again. If you listen he was told the right thing to do. We were going to strap him off and he said NO. He had already rolled once before on that same hill. His whole reason for doing it the second time was to roll again for the video camera and he had fun doing it. By the way Tanner left is left and right is right. I never said that what you were telling him was wrong but I was pointing out that he didn't have enough experience to pull it off without rolling. That is a good little place for him to learn and you guys are doing the right thing instead of throwing him on some meatgrinder of a hill that will get him killed. He is gonna make a good one, he's got plenty of nerve. |
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
Yea Wes we sent him up north to learn something and all yall teach him to do is roll over  
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| Author: | khaney01 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
rockrockets1 wrote: Yea Wes we sent him up north to learn something and all yall teach him to do is roll over If you're gonna make a omelet you gotta break a few eggs. 
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| Author: | Firebug [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
Tanner couldn't have picked a better place or better bunch of folks to do his daredevil show. Hate I missed it. But Tanner,,Damnit,,wear your helmet next time,,, I mean it,,,geez 
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
K Y school Not K9 school
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| Author: | stroker2332 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
rockrockets1 wrote: they tell me all the KY boys are the best drivers in the world Did you listen to any of them khaney01 wrote: rockrockets1 wrote: Yea Wes we sent him up north to learn something and all yall teach him to do is roll over Go back and LISTEN ROCKROCKETS, if you understand what that means. He had every intention of rolling his buggy. We were just watching him. I'm not his teacher. You must be a miserable person, all you want to do is argue. |
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| Author: | Firebug [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
Girls
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
Wes I did not know I was arguing I thought we were messing with Tanner I can hear ya'll seem to let Bruce pick your friends ,Hell I don't even know you or your wife but she sure is Quick to jump on here and go to bashing ,Hell ya'll need to loosen up |
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
Well we all wandering what now |
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| Author: | khaney01 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
stroker2332 wrote: rockrockets1 wrote: they tell me all the KY boys are the best drivers in the world Did you listen to any of them khaney01 wrote: rockrockets1 wrote: Yea Wes we sent him up north to learn something and all yall teach him to do is roll over Go back and LISTEN ROCKROCKETS, if you understand what that means. He had every intention of rolling his buggy. We were just watching him. I'm not his teacher. You must be a miserable person, all you want to do is argue. I'm "a lost ball in the high weeds" on this one? All I read was some good natured ribbing..... |
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
no shit I was trying to be funny .Maby they been drinking
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| Author: | purplerail [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
i hear " holy shit that sum bitch is crazy" |
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| Author: | stroker2332 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
Hell I'm just ribbing too. Just gets better when you make it a little personnel. Right.  She don't "bash" nobody, she just gives her opinion, just like you do.
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
I have got a bunch of PM's saying the same thing WTF |
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| Author: | stroker2332 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
Where's mine, I haven't got any yet? |
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| Author: | stroker2332 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Something dangerous I hear in a lot of videos... |
purplerail wrote: i hear " holy shit that sum bitch is crazy" I already told you what you could do purplerail. It still stands. |
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