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Author:  m.ralston [ Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:38 pm ]
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Anybody ever heard of or tried to run there daily driver car off of hydrogen? My friend is making one and putting it on his truck tomorrow.He claims it will double his gas milage.It was made out of a mason jar with some stainless steel strips down into distilled water and baking soda.
Author:  spectater [ Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:55 pm ]
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There are two Dodge Ram 3500's, with the Cummins Diesel that run on hydrogen around here. Don't know how they pulled it off, but i've seen them several times.
Author:  m.ralston [ Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:02 pm ]
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He is t ing it into his vacum line going to the carb. Not totally running on it just using it as a aditive.
Author:  countri boy 84 [ Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:04 pm ]
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guy at work does it on an old lumina went from 20-23 up to 29-31 cost him 20 bucks and about 2 hours worth of work. plus its been on the car forabout a year and a half.
Author:  chris38375 [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:05 pm ]
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i agree with the DEVIL
Author:  spectater [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:11 pm ]
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I second the devil
Author:  gustograber [ Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:30 am ]
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i`ve been thinking about trying it on a old truck i`ve got for a wile now. heres a link that kinda shows how it works. http://water4gas.com/2books.htm?hop=eclipse123
Author:  bevans37095 [ Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:14 pm ]
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Chaindrive Rail wrote:
It takes more energy to make it than it makes burning it. To be more specific: It takes more energy to turn the alternator to make the electricity to make the hydrogen in the "jar" than the jar can produce in hydrogen. The only way for it to be "cheap" is for you to manufacture it at home using very large solar cells and bottle it up for use in your car which would cost more than you would save in a hundred years. It's like ethanol, it cost more to make it than it's worth (right now.) In other words: they're fooling their selves. Sorry for the bad news.
Curt


Based on my research, I came to the conclusion that it may take more energy to make the hydrogen than it gives off when burned, however, the addition of the extra hydrogen and oxygen into the fuel/air mixture creates a better, more efficient fuel burn. This allows the engine to create more power more efficiently with less fuel consumption. The additional draw on the alternator is exceeded by the more efficient use of the already existing fuel source. A normal gasoline engine only uses like 12% of the energy from the gasoline it burns(I don't remember the exact %), but the same engine could potentially double its efficiency by the addition of the hydrogen and oxygen from the electrolysis of the water. This is not a creation of energy by generating hydrogen, it is the creation of a fuel additive that better utilizes the energy from the gasoline.

BTW - I haven't actually tried this because I'm not 100% convinced that it is safe and that it won't ruin the engine on my daily driver vehicle. So, someone prove me wrong if they can.
Author:  WellsvilleMike [ Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:00 pm ]
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Just listen to Curt's reply. Hydrogen will just not work. If it seems to good to be true...well it is. When people talk of the slight fuel economy found after adding one of these contraptions I wonder what caused it. When people add this black magic junk, it is often done at the same time as setting the proper tire presure, oil change, and a good tune up. Much research has been conducted and proven on the fuel economy MAINTAINED by good maintenance of a vehicle...Just sayin..
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