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Author:  gustograber [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:34 am ]
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was wondering if anyone knows a good place to buy a high torque starter for a 6 rib. i need 2 and the ones i can find are a bet pricey.

Author:  D. Marks [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:03 am ]
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Call either Shadetree or Turboblue. They can help you out.

Author:  Firebug [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:16 am ]
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Do not buy the cheaper ones on Ebay. I learned the hard way. Mine went bad and the starter shop here in town couldn't even find parts. Now I use the 3 rib bell housing and the starter is a little less expensive. 8)

Author:  gustograber [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:55 am ]
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thanks firebug i just got off ebay and was thinking about calling. i hate buying junk!

Author:  wildwillie [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:42 am ]
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tim sells some chrome ones that we have all had good luck out of them and thay are a lot cheeper.

Author:  kybuggy1 [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:52 am ]
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Wilbur, those are for 3 rib bellhousings I think.

Kenny, switch to the 3 rib bellhousing. Cheapest and way to go. They are PROUD of those high torque 6-rib starters :lol: , as you already found out.

Yankee might have a spare belhousing, give him a holler.

Larry

Author:  turboblue [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:07 am ]
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[quote='wildwillie']tim sells some chrome ones that we have all had good luck out of them and thay are a lot cheeper.[/quote]

A lot cheaper than who?

Most shops, me included don't stock 091 high torque starters because the good ones cost so much.

gustograber
I'd do like Larry suggested and change the bell housing.
Be sure to use the corresponding input shaft when you do.

Author:  Kyle [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:17 am ]
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hey my buddy accidently bought a 6rib bellhousing hi torque starter from drews. think he paid like 250 for it and found out hes got a 3rib bellhousing. i am sure he would part with it if you interrested lemme know and i'll give him a call.

kyle

Author:  kybuggy1 [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:25 am ]
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All I ever had to do was trim about a 1/4" off the input shaft with a grinder. And thats only with certain gland nuts....CB is one that I had to do that with. Used a Scat gland nut on my wife's motor and 6 rib (3 rib bellhousing) and didnt have to do anything to input shaft.

I have heard of some having more trouble than that, though. I might've just got lucky.

Larry

Author:  Firebug [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:51 pm ]
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I had no trouble but it probably due to the suby adapter :?:

Author:  gustograber [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:19 pm ]
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got starters ordered. thanks turboblue.

Author:  Baddvw [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:24 am ]
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I would pay the extra $$$ for a good high-torque starter, it will be the best $250.00 you will ever spend, and never have to worry about another one again or you can convert a 6v starter into one.

Author:  Strong [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:34 am ]
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3 rib bellhousing, 6volt starter with a 12volt bendix. Will start any stroker motor easily.

Author:  Firebug [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:47 am ]
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Automatic starters are a little more torquie too, and dont need a pilot bushing. Buy one at Orielly's and get a life time guarantee. But it is heavier and bulkier. :wink:
heres one on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-Autom ... dZViewItem

Author:  kybuggy1 [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:02 pm ]
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Auto starters are better than stock for sure, but they wont turn a high compression stroker very well. I think we are beatin a dead horse anyhow, he ordered somethin already :wink: .

Larry

Author:  RailHomie [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:22 pm ]
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In that case, I'll steal the thread. :twisted:

I've got an 84 vanagon transmission and I'm going to be using a 200mm flywheel adapted for my V6, so I'm a little lost on what starter to use.

Kennedy sells an adapter for a diesel rabbit starter, but my bellhousing has to be modified for that to even work!
I'm not sure what to do.

Any suggestions? (I have a 3-rib that I could pull the bellhousing off of, but I'm afraid it would never sell if I did, and I deserately need the money from it!) :roll:

Author:  kybuggy1 [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:32 pm ]
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How much "modifying" would you have to do? Grind the starter mounting surface down so it will engage the flywheel? If its much more than that...
I'm sure it would hurt the value of the three rib, but to get a good starter for that 6 rib bellhousing is gonna cost you a lot more than something for a 3 rib bellhousing... Unless gustograber found something new :?:
Plus, if you need a starter while you are miles from home riding on a long weekend, it'll be a lot easier to find one that fits the 3 rib bellhousing.

Larry

Author:  RailHomie [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:49 pm ]
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Well, since I don't completely understand what he said, here's the email:

"If you have a diesel starter that is stamped SR92X then our $45 endplate will replace the end of the starter so it will fit any bug or bus transaxle except 1976 or newer buys, the 091-xx-xxx. These newer bus transaxles have a deeper pocket for the starter. Your could weld about 7/16" to the armature and use a 1976 or newer Bendix or just replace the bellhousing with an earlier model bus bellhousing.

If you find a 1968-1971 bellhousing which does not have a guide tube for the release bearing you would need our pressure pad and spiroloc for $7.
HK"

Author:  gustograber [ Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:02 am ]
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no larry i didn`t find a way around the high pirce of the 6 rib starter. i could have change to a 3 rib bellhousing but i`am not building a new buggy just putting in a high com. motor and my frame is already set up for a 6 rib. so i would have buy a 3 rib bellhousing, pull motor back out, pull trans. , oil cooler and lines remove dimond plate , fuel pump & reg. , strip paint & cut out old bellhouseing mounts, weld in new ones & put everything back together. gess i`am getting lazy just seemed a lot easyer to spend a little more money on a starter that fit.

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