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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:19 pm 
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I went Subaru in my race buggy because of the center of gravity and torque. it eats the eco tecs up like nobodys business! That being said, I had a VERY hard time finding the parts I needed to build it(most were custom made), they were expensive and had very few choices at the time for an ECU and then even harder time finding someone to tune it. it seems like everybody is going the way of the eco, and for a woods buggy, I would too.

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:17 pm 
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Building a bad ass buggy is not cheap period. You go bigger with one part then it makes another part weaker and so on down the line. Buy once cry once you get what you pay for. And if you have a few beers and tend to put it places you might not normally do, then you can just about double the cost right off the bat,lol. Chad :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 4:40 pm 
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It's not "badass" but if you're not totally set on having big power, a 1641 and a 3 rib is cheap, reliable, and can get you anywhere you want to go on the trails without breaking. You can climb most hills also....Trust me, I know. :D :D :D

I spent more money and broke more stuff in the few years I had a stroker than the other 15 years I've been riding.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:41 am 
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RaceBugg1098 wrote:
I went Subaru in my race buggy because of the center of gravity and torque. it eats the eco tecs up like nobodys business! That being said, I had a VERY hard time finding the parts I needed to build it(most were custom made), they were expensive and had very few choices at the time for an ECU and then even harder time finding someone to tune it. it seems like everybody is going the way of the eco, and for a woods buggy, I would too.

Yes vary expensive... :oops::oops::oops: but lighter better center of gravity. Best bang for the buck eco

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:27 am 
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if your about climing the biggest and baddest hills the proven way is single seat 2500 2nd gear trans nothing is gonna touch it if your a trail rider who throws some hills in from time to time go wc

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:12 pm 
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Cough, cough,.......................................bull shit.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:08 pm 
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Cough, cough,.......................................bull shit.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:14 am 
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I have ran both a 2500 and now a 2.4 ..and once the buggy is set up for a eco i will take it any day over my 2500 .And the people that new my 2500 they was no cheap stuff in it..JUST SAYING.. :wink:

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If you can't drive it,don't blame it on the motor.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:03 pm 
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If my information is correct a air cooled won the comp

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:04 pm 
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jesse wrote:
If my information is correct a air cooled won the comp


Looks like your right jesse :shock: cough cough... maybe should repost the score card next time this is brought up :roll:

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:38 pm 
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they know its true that vw is the better hillclimber just cant admit it :oops:

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:18 am 
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They was only 2 eco buggys that ran the A class mine which is a 2 seater THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE B CLASS.. trail rig that 's 2000 ibs ..and bob's .. But we ran the A class and probably would have done ok but the buggy broke some 930 cv's ..But for power i love it $500 motor how much does these 2500 or 2387 or2332 have in em :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:47 am 
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And yeah the vw is a bad as motor ..i ran em for year's ..The guys that are running the eco love em and are teaching people that they can make big power with out spending 5 to $9000 doing it .

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:33 pm 
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Pretty pictures and video are great. I think the Echotech is a great option and I have recommended AFI on many occasions. Please get a handle on customer service I don't want to piss my friends off sending them somewhere where they don't get excellent service after the sale. For this guy it's always going to be Acura power


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:06 pm 
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COUGH COUGH.... where are the race results :?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:25 pm 
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This is a subject that will never end!!! But here is my 2 cents. I run a 2500 weddle gear buggy and mostly trail ride and I love it. Plenty of power. I ride with a few 2.4 ecotecs and they run great to. With that being said I am building a new buggy soon and it will be water cooler!!!! Best bang for the buck regardless of what motor you use. And I will also keep the AC buggy love aircooled. And Madmike I don't think it's been proved by any WC buggy a can beat a AC in competition. Specially a Subaru so you better get it done cause just seems like those bama boys just keep getting faster.

And if some is paying to have the work done then definitely WC is the only way to go.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:27 pm 
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Although helmetguy and Terry fryer both got kick ass buggies :shock: :twisted:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:39 pm 
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If you can't drive it,don't blame it on the motor.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:33 pm 
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There's no reason a W/C wouldn't outclimb an aircooled, just nobody has built the right car yet. The A/C lot have had 50 years to get their weight distribution sorted...

There ain't no A/C gonna beat me down the race trails though :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:20 am 
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a water cooled has to over come its weight difference over the air cooled (not like that is a problem) and will always result in a heavier buggy. air cooled will always have that advantage. I have both and will argue either way.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:54 am 
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I recently got two Dyson vacuum cleaners and replaced the motors. One with an ecotec and one with an AC 2500.

Then I threw my life savings on the floor....

In test after test the AC motor sucked up my money at nearly FOUR TIMES the speed of the ecotec.... :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:58 pm 
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I have both and I agree with racebugg. I think its going to take a bigger tire to overcome the weight difference. But if I had to choose it will be WC just because of maintenance

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