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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:45 pm 
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Just by reading up on side shift trans. South Africa should have plenty of 5 speeds with 483 and 513 RnP, 411 1st gear and 233 2nd and 4 spyder diffs. If you talk funny, tan hard, swear your allegiance with your fingers crossed, denounce God, we can get you into this country and get you one of our jobs, tuition and a house. lol welcome to our site. lol You may even get to be our next president!


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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:12 pm 
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No chains came off but it took me a while to figure out to use bigger stronger bolts. The ba ychain concept is good but my junkyard parts were lacking. Bubbalowe is on the right track I think. I anticipate madmikes interpretation.



Don't look at me, I have no fricking idea what I'm doing. :roll:

Right now I'm trying to keep Cheerios's on the table and the lights turned on. I'll be happy to get my stick welded POS finished and in the woods.

All kidding aside, what Bubba has going on is fantastic, what you had going on, Marty, was fantastic, Curt and Rock as well, because it is yours. You guys saw a problem and came up with a solution, you had an idea and found a way to make it happen.
I'm toying with the idea, kinda doing some design work in my head but as far as putting anything on paper, not yet. Anything I come up with will be either completely revolutionary or more likely just a simple refinement on what you guys have already done. The ONLY thing that separates me from you is I have a machine shop at my disposal. So don't be holding your breath waiting on me.

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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:19 pm 
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Your steering wheel on wrong side. Lol nice buggy


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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:59 am 
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Cool buggy! "Baby chains" are a proven design and the nice thing is they bolt right up to stock torsions and solve many problems while keeping the wheel base at 104".


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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:50 pm 
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Lol... thanks guys. Can't wait to get this problem sorted out so i can see how that v6 runs. My first trip only lasted about 10 seconds before things went pear shaped. (But shit it sounded good for those 10 seconds) At least i feel i am on the right track now with the chains.

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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:27 am 
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Ok chaps, can't believe it has been a year since i was asking for advice, but the good news is that my project is finished ... I decided to go the baby chains route and have stolen a few ideas as i have gone along and also come up with a few of my own. I think the result looks ok. Do you guys reckon it will last? (Pics coming)

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 12:23 pm 
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Hell yeah!


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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
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Lol... i need help. Iv got some pics on photobucket, but i can't remember how to post them on here.....

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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
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How do you do that on a tablet?

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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
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here are a couple of pics...


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and a few more


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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
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and a few more


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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
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morning guys, this is the finished product. Do you think it will grenade on the second outing? (withstood the first) or should it be ok?


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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
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What type of caliper with the E brake?


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Nice work! It looks like you decided to
keep the final drive ratio 1:1`(front sprocket
same diameter as rearward sprocket).
While this is a "safe" design, you can get more
bang for your buck if you increase the diameter
of the rearward sprocket and go to a taller tire.
Shift revs and transmission gearing can stay
the same when the correct tire height is used.
In theory, underdriving the final drive along
with taller tires will improve clutch life (less slipping),
provide better climbing at lower RPMs and increase
launch response (based on road traction conditions of course).


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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
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The calliper is from a vw golf/ audi. It works well havin separate e brakes for each rear weel. Helps with steering.
The ratio has been reduced. It's1.4 to 1. 1st gear with the 33" tires is a monster.
Just enough speed and a huge amount of power.

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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
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Now you get to watch everyone else try to duplicate what you did. Have some fun with them, toss a towel over the arms when it's sitting, let um guess at it.
Nice work, good to see folks take pride in what they do, none of that junk yard dog crap, cheers.

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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
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Nice . Just curious are the chains adj ?


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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
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Image WA0027 you can see a half link used to help get the length right.


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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
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Thanks guys. No, the chains aren't adjustable, however... if i put a spacer plate under the front hub assembly, it will tension it up.

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It's been almost 18 months of fun and abuse and i am pleased to say that i have not had a moment of trouble! I've rolled it 3 times already and nothing has bent or broken. This thing is bulletproof!

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 Post subject: Re: baby chains??¡
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It's been almost 18 months of fun and abuse and i am pleased to say that i have not had a moment of trouble! I've rolled it 3 times already and nothing has bent or broken. This thing is bulletproof!

Well done! Proves the design removes a weak link in the drive train by absorbing shock load to CV's / spider gears.


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