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 Post subject: It could be my time
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:13 am 
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tossin around a water cooled for my woods car. I'm thinkin suby. What is the best to go with without goin turbo? 2.5 dohc? If I was to go to a junkyard and get one and the wiring harness, how hard is it to "wire up"? I'm lookin to go cheap, the racebuggy takes most of my fun funds :roll: Any other ideas? I don't really want to build another high dollar transaxle either (just a super-diff) so I don't want a big power motor. keep it under 200hp

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 Post subject: Re: It could be my time
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http://www.outfrontmotorsports.com/motor_matrix.htm

This is a good table for figuring combos and hp potential.

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 Post subject: Re: It could be my time
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when it comes to the wiring harness i strongly recomed enginewiring.com he dose grate work but you can check with KEP adpters not sure what its called but its a life size lay out and you put it on the ground and lay harnes on it and it shows what to do and its color coded ...

i would check and see what motors they have this for and pick one of them to be cheep about it

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 Post subject: Re: It could be my time
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Eg33 and do your own harness,,you wont be disspaointed. If you got the jack,,pay enginewiring.com and get the ez30 or ez36. There is no replacement for displacement.

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do some people run the stock computer? firebug, what do you mean "make your own"? use all the stock componants and not the harness and just wire it all together? and what is this eg33 you speak of? I don't know subyspeak yet :mrgreen:

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when he saids make your own he means use the stock harness and cut all the crap out of it and make it work...

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 Post subject: Re: It could be my time
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The eg33 is the 3.3 litre , 6 cylinder boxer that came in the 92-97 Subaru SVX. Google it,,it is a hot rod , way ahead of its time. By doing your own harness, I mean get the whole car and take out the harness and then do your own modifications. I enjoyed doing mine even though it is a bit demanding. I find this engine to be plenty of power strait out of the car bone stock. Make this a project that you dont mind being patient with. Otherwise hire it done and miss half the fun.,,good luck,,oh yea,,member Numbchux does the harness too and cheaper than enginewiring.com but he don't get on here much . Chime in Numbchux

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Tanner,,,get to class :roll:

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i get it. the 33 in eg33 is 3.3 liter. is that how all the #'s work?

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Here is what I know the ej22 is 2.2, ej25 is 2.5, eg33 is 3.3,,but the older carbed ea81 is 1.8, an even odder is the ea71 is 1.6. a t on the end means turbo.

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bug im out for spring brake so HA :mrgreen:

shouldnt you be at work....?? :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: It could be my time
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I agree with Firebug but if cheap is what you want then go 2.2 obdI. You cant get any cheaper than that. Buy the whole car for 200 or less and buy the adapter from kenedy and ask for the wireing schematics. I run one with delta cams in it and Im impressed, Stock six rib and bus joints, cheap rad from ebay. Less than a grand for reliabilty and power.

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I was very impressed with the performance of Steve's.


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I was very impressed with the performance of Steve's.

Its even snapier with the cams from Delta cams! even has a cam lope!

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or.... be really cool and go Honda V-TECH... 3.0, 3.2 or 3.5 8) :D
$1200 plug and play ecu/harness(4 wires to hook up), $500 motor

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I like the obd1 idea. sounds easy and right up my ally!

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I would sell my ej22 with harness and exhaust for a grand but no adapter,,if I had too :|

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I'm going to do some lookin around here yet

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http://dayton.craigslist.org/pts/1103169809.html

http://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/1111507455.html

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/pts/1114261410.html

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/pts/1103160200.html

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bug im out for spring brake so HA :mrgreen:

shouldnt you be at work....?? :roll:


maybe you should still be in school during spring BREAK hahaha just bustin ya

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 Post subject: Re: It could be my time
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Well I only have a few trips on it so far, but havn't needed more then about half throttle to have enough power. That doesnt mean I don't punch it and fling md at times. Really seems to pis off the 4x4's when u crawl past them while they spin at the base of a hill. Not sure how many subies are floating around the junkyard but I seem to see mid 90's grand am GT's pretty often.

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 Post subject: Re: It could be my time
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I just want to throw in one other thing to concider. OBD-1 is up to model year 1994, that makes it a 15 year old car. Unless you can luck out and find a couple of low mile, 70,000 or 80,000 is low, your pickings are getting slim. I would suggest going OBD-2, 2.5L SOHC or DOHC makes no difference as far as HP goes. That opens your availibility from 1995 to 2002 or beyond with additional mods.
My next planned major project is to swap from OBD-1 2.2L to OBD-2 2.5L SOHC.

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Mike why not the 3.3 suby :?:


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 Post subject: Re: It could be my time
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Availability for one. Aftermarket parts are harder to find. The motor is longer and heavier, now with Baby Chains it's not an isue but for a regular suspension car it could be. With the additional weight and length, the HP differance isn't all that desirable IMO. Do a reflash and swap cams on a 2.5L and match the 3.3 HP without the added weight.
The last issue would be transmision, when you get into the 200Hp plus range the life expectancy starts to go down. How many Weddle'd up gear boxes do you want to do?

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I see .Forgot about the chain thang
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