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Author:  RaceBugg1098 [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:43 pm ]
Post subject:  building new barn/buggy shop
finally getting around to building a barn so I can get back to building and working on buggies!
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prepping for the barn, trying my hand at leveling out the site. a hell of a lot harder than I expected!
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one hell of a driver! he backed blind down my street, up my drivway, and around a few trees without haveing to pull up for a second try!
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setting the trusses took them about 4 hours
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this is after 3 days of work
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day 4. they put the roof and 2 sides on in one day.... IN THE RAIN!!!
Author:  NRIbuggys [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:58 pm ]
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Nice man.
Author:  holeman [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:05 pm ]
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very nice would love to have something like that.
Author:  Rick [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:20 pm ]
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Thats sweet nick, now when you get it done you'll have to have us down to drink some i mean a lot of beer 8)
Author:  Odyknuck [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:53 pm ]
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Awsome! Overall size? What are you doing about heat? In the work area, I went with Hydronic in the floor. Best decision I made when a built mine. Don't have to worry about sitting on a cold ass floor, picking up a cold ass tool or working on a cold ass Buggy! :mrgreen: Food for thought!
Author:  fortydegnorth [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:29 pm ]
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That's a nice looking shop. I don't think my yard is even that big. :wink:

Our house is radiant hydronic heat in the slab and it is pretty awesome. It's a whole different kind of warmth.
Author:  giveitagallon [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:08 pm ]
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Very nice !
Best build thead I have seen in a while ! 8)
Author:  buggybarn [ Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:42 am ]
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Very nice. Looks like u have a nice place there. Ill trade u that skidloader for my buggy and a case of beer lol . My neighbors have floor heat and its badass. I recomend it :D
Author:  RaceBugg1098 [ Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:16 am ]
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Funny you all mention heating the floor... that was why I put this on here. I completely plan on doing that but have some questions. The insde of the barn is 40' X 60'. How many heating circuits should I break it down into? I am planning on building a "shop" inside that will also have air conditioning. That will be one heating circuit. I figure two or three more for the rest. How do I deal with drilling holes in the floor for bolting stuff down (lift, lathe, mill, ect..) without hitting lines?
Author:  jrvb [ Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:28 pm ]
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come in 4' from your walls and start your heating there that way you have 4' space around the whole shop that you can drill and mounts stuff to. :mrgreen:
Author:  fortydegnorth [ Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:59 pm ]
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My house is only 1500 sq. ft. and it's broken down into 4 zones. That is 4 zones controlled by a manifold to control the water, but the entire house is on one thermostat. That is mainly so we can control the heat to the bedrooms. You may want to run two thermostats and make your manifold with ball valves so you can turn on the smaller shop independantly. In our house the majority of our heating is done around the perimeter. The major drawback to radiant is the time it takes to warm up. If you leave it heating most of the time it's awesome, if you plan to turn it off and on it's a pain because it takes 4-8 hours to feel much heat. I would make it at least 4-5 zones, and make a blueprint where the tubing is. I scored a practically new boiler off Craigslist when I replaced mine. The guy took it out because his wife wanted forced air. :roll: It was a deal at $600. A lot of people remove the boilers when they get a leak in the floor. Deals can be had if you look around.
Author:  MadMike [ Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:11 pm ]
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The race car shop I worked in had floor heat, and yes it was nice. Looking good Nick, you'll be back to building bad ass buggys in no time.
Author:  Wanted_Fugitive [ Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:23 pm ]
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Great looking shop. How much money do you think you'll have tied up in when its all said and done?
Author:  RaceBugg1098 [ Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:28 pm ]
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Thanks! I guess I will break it down into as many zones as possible. I plan to keep the shop around 65 degrees in the winter and the rest of the building around 45-50 degrees when im not out there. Dunno what the total cost will be when its all said and done. Electric is still up in the air, might cost $8,000 if i have to run it from the house, might not cost anything if I can get a new service brought in. The building itself cost about $40,000. That is completly insulated with liner panels on the inside and cathedrial ceilings.
Author:  Odyknuck [ Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:58 pm ]
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My heated section is 30' X 40'. The other 24' X 30' is not. I ran 1200' of 1/2" PEX tubing (tie wrapped to the rebar grid) broken up between 6 zones. Each zone has a balancing valve that is part of a modular stacked manifold. All zones are controlled from one bulb Thermostat in the poured floor set to 45 degrees. I set a piece of 1/2" EMT tubing bent in a 90 in the floor. Then laced the bulb down to the end of the EMT , then fill the EMT with 5w20 oil. There is really no need to have a wall thermostat for a shop. If youn use a wall stat every time you open an overhead door it will unnessasarly turn the system on. I also use an Instahot water heater as a boiler for the heating side. This provides my domestic hot water from a single source. It also makes the mechanical system compact as every thing is mounted on a wall. The biggest falacy with infloor system is drilling holes after fact. So everything should be designed before hand. Depending on how thick you go with the floor will have a bearing on if you gamble drilling. Breaking the tubing up into mutipal zones at least allows you to Isolate if you do happen to drill into a tube.
Author:  giveitagallon [ Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:59 pm ]
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I went with the carhartt system and works great !
Author:  RaceBugg1098 [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:29 am ]
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Thanks for all the help and ideas. They almost have the inside done...
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front is done
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Author:  RaceBugg1098 [ Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:46 am ]
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Barn is done. waiting for gutter, doors and insulation in the roof.
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next is laying it all out so I can run the tubing for the heated floor befor the concrete.
Author:  ridenrace6 [ Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:42 pm ]
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VERY nice :D
Author:  Red Barron [ Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:35 pm ]
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Wealthy people? Nice shop, I'm a little jealous. :P
Author:  fortydegnorth [ Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:59 pm ]
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Looks great. I'd have that thing full and messy in no time. :roll:
Author:  big specht [ Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:17 pm ]
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We have floor heat in the shop at home and that is one of the best thing we did it always warm and there is no noise just a click from the relay that turns on the water pumps. And drilling into the floor is always a gamble.
Author:  RaceBugg1098 [ Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:10 am ]
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yea, I guess drilling in the floor will have to be a gamble. might be waiting a few months for concrete anyway, gotta save some more cash! Thanks for all the comments! might try to have a hog roast later this year after barn is done... :mrgreen:
Author:  Dee Ell [ Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:04 am ]
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Nice barn , although seems more like a man cave to me. I didn't see any livestock in them pics.
Author:  Odyknuck [ Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:07 pm ]
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Not gonna either! :shock: :wink: :mrgreen:
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