Guys I am still on the fence about the candidates. And everytime I listen to a different news outlet they just trash a different one. So sell me on your guy! Who are you pushing for the win?

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I would vote Hank but poelpe don't like to hear the truth

Really it's all a joke really look at the heath care plan no one wanted it but with money passing hands it was no problem to get passed

If they had to work like everyone else maybe something would change for the better but I don't see that

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i agree with bluebuggy

but as far as the candidates we got running so far, i have to say that i thought caine made the most sense (plus he has never held a political/public office before so maybe he aint as corrupted as the rest YET), however, and it may only be a coincidence but they did get somewhat put me on alert so to speak about his "999" plan, when you flip the 9's upside down they become 6's

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I don't understand why more don't like Ron Paul .If you look at his record he has never taken the peoples money,He has voted the constitution every EVERY single time !!!!! he wants to stop foreign aid and I think that is a GOOD idea.Wants to legalize pot and I had rather meet a stoned feller looking for a donut on a road than a feller that just left the bar drunk.Like him I think it should be up to the person what he does in his own time as long as it don't hurt others .We have not been at war with Korea in years so why do we still have a base there,and Japan,And all the other places.He says he will stop this.They all hate the U.S. so why do we keep them up. I say we stand with Israel and that's it.I believe that that is why this country has prospered over the years because we were here to protect Israel. And now with the Gov taking God out of schools and Gov bldg and taking Christ out of Christmas what kind of crap is x-mas? And a holiday tree WTH.I think we need to get with the program.








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I honestly don't know who I am going to vote for yet, but Rockett made a great point about taking God out of everything especially since we are a nation that was built under God. The sayings " IN GOD WE TRUST," and " ONE NATION UNDER GOD," is slowly fading out of our society. I tell you guys something. I don't like it! It is scary what God has planned when that happens. Just something to think about when making a decision on who to vote for. I had a friend send me this link at : www.endofamerica4.com. This guy had some scary predictions.

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Try to remember this country was also founded by people who came here to get away from religous persicutions. We truly are one big melting pot. At the time this country was founded EVERY country was founded on religion and religous wars. Entire countries were stolen in the name of god and all of its people were either converted or killed. I am more concerned with the country as a whole then one of a thousand religions. Now I do agree there is not a whole lot of benifit in taking god out of schools, but then every religion should get the same chance. And that would suck, lol.

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When they were building this country, and introducing the melting pot. It was built buy alot of hard working people. Now the melting pot means you can come in illegally, get assistance with everything in life on the governments dime. And a 56 yr old Born and raised American, man who has worked all his life, paid in to Social Security all their life, finds himself physically unable to work. Gets turned down for every assistance they sign up for, and has to get a lawyer to file bankruptcy, lose every thing he works for, just to get help. If there were someone to fix this then maybe there would be someone worth voting for. One party gets blamed for being for the rich. But the other seems to be only for the non workers. Elect a working class person. Maybe that is the way.

I sooooo agree. That is almost the story of my neighbor who lost his house this summer. He was 46 though. No one seems to be for the middle class guys these days. I keep hearing it, just not seeing it. Unemployment is one thing, you pay into it and it has limitations. But these other programs that have no end to how long you can be on it, and have to do nothing but be born to be on it, grrrrrrrr. We are breeding ourselves into a group of slackers and idiots, because we pay them to breed. I have been married for 4 years trying to get everything lined up so we can afford daycare when we have a kid. Cant afford to have my wife stop working and lose the health insurance and paycheck.

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God promised Noah, he wouldn't destroy with water again. He didn't say anything about politicians, deadbeats, slackers, and idiots. That's what will destroy next time. When you can't get good service anywhere. A Big Mac costs $7.00 and it takes 20 min to get it. A politician wants to give the kids $10 an hr. minimum wage.What kind of lesson are we teach our kids. You don't have to do a good job, you don't have to try to better your self. Here is more. Until it runs out and then the govt. tells us oop. We spent to much. we don't have anything left,to give. Then they won't no how to make it on there own. Where is the work ethic, and testicular fortitude, that built this country. That I was taught. I'm not that old, but it seems those were ancient times.

I live in a semi-rural town in indiana and there was discussion of cancelling the "Christmas Pageant" at the local elementary school many years before there was discussion of ADDING a muslim prayer room (and that really happened... out of respect... ). We live in a world of lawyers where any one person can ruin it for the rest of us.... Just like in kindergarten... And on the original topic.... Romney is a nice sane CENTRIST that won't fix a thing but he combs his hair real nice for the pictures. Newt is a smart man with the charm of a 3rd century door knocker. I think he would make the first RESPECTED VP in a long while. Cain has the message. If he would change a 9% FEDERAL tax to a 9% INTERNET tax he would go alot further.... How many people do you know that will buy something on EBAY, AMAZON, or whatever with free shipping just to avoid the sales tax from buying it locally. Ron Paul has amazing ideas but he will always look like an angry little elf from Santa's Workshop and that doesn't scare anyone. Perry shoots first and ask questions later. I don't have a problem with that MOST of the time but we are BROKE. Bachman is the only thing more ground breaking than a black president and I think everyone has seen enough ground broken lately. I don't have a woman problem... I just never go double or nothing unless I am so drunk i won't miss the money. OH YEAH and then there is our DEAR INCUMBENT PRESIDENT.... BARACK OBAMA (Captain Pepsi, If I remember the logo on his super suit)... Say what you want about the rest.... They ALL beat this LOSER! (I HOPE.... )

Ron Paul reminds me of Ross Perot,,,,or an angry elf,,,,I liked Perot

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I am a 30 year military man and I have had my throat cut many times there. I stick up for what is right while my co-workers are filleting the gv'mt.Back in the 80's Ross Perot said the reason he got out of the Navy in 1959 is because every one in the Navy makes their military descisions based souly on how it will affect their rank and therefore pay.NOT what is based on what is right or wrong , safe, cost savings, best for the Navy or country.If the big Admiral wants it, none of them are going to throw a rock in his pond and make ripples.Anybody can be an officer in the military. All you have to do is go along with the bigger guy.

I think every citizen should have a ballot card and write on it their likes and dislikes and all these will be feed into a computor and IT will average and spit out what we as a country should do and the path we take.When I hear politician I automatically think crook or who paid his way to be a puppet.

herman cain was on the late show with david letterman tonight

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hmmmm HASPIN for president!!! heha ha im on the trails boys ill name a hill after that fudge

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Have ya'll seen Herman Cain with his purple suit and hat We don't need another Big cat daddy in there we got one of them already. They don't seem to know how to do anything but vacation.

Bugman505 hit the nail on the head. I'm 56, been laid off almost two years, benefits ( unenjoyment ) exhausted, and struggling to stay in my house. I am a ASE Master Tech for 30 years, a heavy equiptment operator, and have done commercial construction for ten years. I can't even find a job where I live. Everyone wants to start you at &8.00 an hour. I made more than that in 73 when I graduated high school. Pisses me off when I drive past a job sight and everyone on the site is an alien. If I were President, I could create 8 million jobs in 6 months, deport 12 million + illegals. Newt's got the brains and the balls, but I like Ron Paul too. Ihope the next President is determined to straighten this shit out, cause the one we have now is Hell bent on destroying capitalism, and replacing it with socialism. He's a worthless POS.

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Amen on the POS

Ok, so I was reading this thread and felt moved to say a few words for thought. I know a lot of you, but there are also a lot of you I haven't had the pleasure of meeting. Please don't take this as me preaching to you or trying to convert anyone (to each their own), it's just something I feel I have to say. I've been in many (for a lack of better terms) conversations with theist over the role that God plays in our lives and in this great nation. Psalm's 33:12 clearly states "Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance." This is why the United States has always been blessed. People will say that the United States is a melting pot of different ethnicities, religions and cultures, which is true, but we have always been a Christian Nation. This nation was founded on Christian values plan and simple. Over the years I have seen our Lord and savior, slowly and methodically being removed from the American landscape. I feel so sorry for children being raised today. It's like they are missing part of their being, of course they are, their missing the one that created their being. We have turned into insensitive, heartless people and it breaks my heart to see the lack of love, compassion and empathy for our fellowman. We need someone in the White House that has a backbone and doesn't worrying about this so called word "politically correct", but get back to our roots. So when you look around, it's easy for me to see what we are missing. I pray God hasn't left us (like some have him) and that he will bless the United States once again, as well as all of us and I pray that I'm worthy to share in his inheritance. I'm sorry if I high jacked the thread.

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Did you also notice his name. Spelled different, but still. Who was Kain's father? Not Adam. Just an observation.

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Kathy,You might be alright

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I'd agree with Ron Paul, if he'd slow down on the 72 age for social security benefits. He has alot of good ideas. I don't know if I can make it to 52 much less 72 to retire. I'm only 44 so it'll all be gone well before I get there anyway. So I may be on board with RP 2012 if I can't get Ted N. and Hank Jr talked in to it. If any body can contact them tell them we need um. Cat scratch fever for all my rowdy friends.