Please Post any Questions or Confusion about the rules and I will try to modify the rules with additional detail.
NOW... Let the complaining begin...
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:39 pm ] |
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Official Hill Climb Rules and Regulations Guiding Principles of the Hill Climb Event • The Hill Climb events are intended to be a FUN competition and social event for buggy families • The goal is to create an environment for EVERYONE to compete (Children, Friends, Spouses - You can share a buggy) • The new rules are designed to speed up the event and allow time to ride the park after the event. The events should only last a few hours All rules are subject to change at anytime during the Race Series Event Coordinators will make all final decisions for their respective event Official Hill Climb Dates Southern Parks -March 21 - Biscuit Mountain -May 30 - Biscuit Mountain -July 25 - Choccolocco More Northern Parks -April 25 - Dirty Turtle -June 13 - WildCat -Aug 15 - Rush Finale -Sept 26 - Pump Jack Qualifying • There will be no Qualifying in 2015. Each person will determine what class they would like to race and they will be awarded points for their respective class. - Class A - Badass Buggy with Mad driving skills - Class B – Skilled at driving with a capable buggy - Class C – Newbies or Old Timer just there to have fun • Competitors can change classes throughout the 2015 series but they can only race one class per event. • Each competitor will draw a number to determine the race order. Vehicle Safety and Registration Rules • All Park Rules will be strictly enforced and supersede any Woodsbuggy.com rules. • All Timer Failures will be an automatic re-run for that competitor. • All drivers must register and pay an entry fee for each event. - Class A registration fee - $30 - Class B registration fee - $25 - Class C registration fee - $20 • One buggy can be shared by multiple drivers but each driver will need to register. • No passengers allowed (with the exception of a parent for a rookie driver) • All vehicles must pass a Technical Inspection before the race begins. - Full tube frame (using tubing no less than 1.25 inches in diameter) - No 'Production' type vehicles are allowed to compete - At least 6 points connecting roll cage to frame - Bolted tires are allowed for A Class (must comply with park rules) - 4 point harness that is properly secured to frame (B & C Class) - 5 point harness that is properly secured to frame (A Class) - Properly secured Battery and Fuel Tank - Overall vehicle safety and approval will be the sole discretion of the safety inspector at each event. • Helmets are mandatory and must be properly fastened • All drivers must sign a WoodsBuggy.com waiver in addition to any park waivers. • All drivers must attend the drivers meeting before the race for each event. Championship Points Scoring • Each event will have multiple races for each class • Each race will be timed and points will be awarded for each race • Each Competitor will be awarded 5 points for each race they attempt and break the bottom beam. (Under their own power) • Each Competitor will be awarded 5 points for each race they complete and break the top beam. • Each Competitor will be awarded additional points for each race if they finish in the top 5. (Must complete the race to be awarded position points) - 1st Place - 10 Points - 2nd Place - 8 Points - 3rd Place - 6 Points - 4th Place - 4 Points - 5th Place - 2 Point • Class C will have 2 races per event – Class C Hill twice • Class B will have 3 races per event – Class C Hill once and Class B Hill twice • Class A will have 4 races per event – Class C Hill once, Class B Hill Once and Class A Hill Twice • Race points will be totaled for each individual event • Total points from the top 3 events will be used to determine the championship winner. • In the event of a points tie at the end of the series, the competitors will have a run-off race at the finale to determine the winner • Run-off races will be only apply to 1st, 2nd and 3rd place ties • Run-off races will use the competitors respective class hill DNF (Did Not Finish) Rules • Once the front of the vehicle crosses the start line, the run counts • If vehicle breaks down during a run and does not finish the race, driver is given a DNF • No rut digging... Once forward motion stops, run is over and the driver is given a DNF • If the driver hits a tree and backs up, the driver can continue the race. • If the vehicle breaks down, the driver is allowed to move to the back of the line. After all other competitors have completed the respective race, 5 additional minutes will be allowed to finish repairs. • If vehicle can not compete after 5 minute repair time, driver is given a DNF. • If the vehicle breaks down and cannot continue to race, the driver is given a DNF for every race that was not completed. YOU CANNOT SUBSTITUTE ANOTHER VEHICLE AT AN EVENT. Championship Payout • There will be NO payout for each individual event. • Total Points from the top 3 Events per competitor will determine the class winners. (See Points Scoring for additional details) • 2015 Championship Hill Climb Payouts - Class A 1st Place - $1500 - Class A 2nd Place - $1200 - Class A 3rd Place - $1000 - Class B 1st Place - $500 - Class B 2nd Place - $400 - Class B 3rd Place - $300 - Class C 1st Place - $150 - Class C 2nd Place - $75 - Class C 3rd Place - $50 |
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
Please Post any Questions or Confusion about the rules and I will try to modify the rules with additional detail. NOW... Let the complaining begin...
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| Author: | frankenbuggy06 [ Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
So what about the guys who can only make it to one or two? How about a bounty hill even if its small Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk 2 |
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
frankenbuggy06 wrote: So what about the guys who can only make it to one or two? How about a bounty hill even if its small Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk 2 If you can only make 1 or 2 events, come join the party and have some fun. The WoodsBuggy Hill Climb Series will not have a Bounty Hill. However, outside of the event, people can throw money in a hat and organize their own bounty hill. |
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| Author: | RDB#3 [ Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
Brilliantly executed. Good call mouse |
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| Author: | frankenbuggy06 [ Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
Can we still enter the hill climb? Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk 2 |
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| Author: | jrvb [ Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
just thinking here. but shouldn't the payout be a percentage, on how many signed up for each of the different classes over the course of the series? this is on our word on which class we want to run or should run in. but most of us know when someone is sandbagging. if this should happen have a panel of judges that can rule on this at the event. and if you are caught sandbagging then, give them the option of either run in the next class up or get a DNF as i said just thinking here. 
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| Author: | kyjr.buggy1 [ Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:02 pm ] |
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
kyjr.buggy1 wrote: :D Dakota, Are you going to make some events this year? |
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| Author: | kyjr.buggy1 [ Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
For sure. We'll get to all of them we can. |
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
jrvb wrote: just thinking here. but shouldn't the payout be a percentage, on how many signed up for each of the different classes over the course of the series? this is on our word on which class we want to run or should run in. but most of us know when someone is sandbagging. if this should happen have a panel of judges that can rule on this at the event. and if you are caught sandbagging then, give them the option of either run in the next class up or get a DNF as i said just thinking here. We have always spent hours talking about Sand Baggers and then we add Qualifying and all sorts of rules to try and protect against sand baggers. The reality is that most people know where they are comfortable riding and will move themselves up into a higher class if they did not qualify correctly. For this series, the winners are going to be the guys that run consistent on each race and make several events. We are trying something new this year to hopefully speed up the events and allow EVERYONE the opportunity to compete. It will be the decision of the driver to decide where they want to race. |
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| Author: | diamonddav [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
There will be NO payout for each individual event. • Total Points from the top 3 Events per competitor will determine the class winners. (See Points Scoring for additional details) • 2015 Championship Hill Climb Payouts o Class A 1st Place - $1500 o Class A 2nd Place - $1200 o Class A 3rd Place - $1000 o Class B 1st Place - $500 o Class B 2nd Place - $400 o Class B 3rd Place - $300 o Class C 1st Place - $150 o Class C 2nd Place - $75 o Class C 3rd Place - $50..........so does this mean you have to be at at least 3 events in order for your points to matter? |
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
diamonddav wrote: There will be NO payout for each individual event. • Total Points from the top 3 Events per competitor will determine the class winners. (See Points Scoring for additional details) • 2015 Championship Hill Climb Payouts o Class A 1st Place - $1500 o Class A 2nd Place - $1200 o Class A 3rd Place - $1000 o Class B 1st Place - $500 o Class B 2nd Place - $400 o Class B 3rd Place - $300 o Class C 1st Place - $150 o Class C 2nd Place - $75 o Class C 3rd Place - $50..........so does this mean you have to be at at least 3 events in order for your points to matter? Yes. The points from the top 3 out of 7 events will be added together to determine the winner. |
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| Author: | helmetguy [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
Hey Dan it what order will you run the classes? Are you planning on not moving the timers(which is time consuming) or moving them to each hill. Will you run everybody abc on the c hill then move to b then a or what? |
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
helmetguy wrote: Hey Dan it what order will you run the classes? Are you planning on not moving the timers(which is time consuming) or moving them to each hill. Will you run everybody abc on the c hill then move to b then a or what? Mike, That is a great question. We have had a lot of discussions about how we can speed things up and we are planning to use a common starting point and common finish line for all of the hills. In some cases, this may require the start line and/or the finish line to be several hundred yards from the hill it self. Moving the times back from the hill will have a few benefits. 1) Allow the C, B and A classes to run their respective hills back to back. (Example:the A class will be able to run the C Hill, line back up, run the B hill, line back up and then hit the A hill twice) 2) We can challenge the drivers skill by adding some turns and obstacles before and after the hill. Depending on how builds the hill, this could get interesting. 3) We can position the timers closer together and reduce the number of timer failures. The finish line may be all the way down the return trail. 4) My personal favorite, put the timers in a more protected area so they do not continue to get broken. |
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| Author: | helmetguy [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
Another question Dan , are we taking the best 3 out of 7 races? And do you have to be present at the finale? The reason I ask this is because in case of a tie ,it would be really exciting to have a runoff right there instead of going by the fastest run .imo |
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| Author: | RMFD [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:10 pm ] |
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How about getting a timer that the crowd can see so they can no what the competitors time was |
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:36 pm ] |
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RMFD wrote: How about getting a timer that the crowd can see so they can no what the competitors time was That is a great idea and I wish I could get one but the boards to display the time cost around $1000. If everyone checks their local craigslist, maybe we can find a used one for less. |
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| Author: | jesse [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:40 pm ] |
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will be taking your best 3 of the 6 then the final as i understand it i do like if their is a tie line the 2 buggys up and let them settle it at the final on the hill |
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
helmetguy wrote: Another question Dan, are we taking the best 3 out of 7 races? And do you have to be present at the finale? The reason I ask this is because in case of a tie ,it would be really exciting to have a runoff right there instead of going by the fastest run .imo Yes, we are counting the best 3 out of 7 and you do not need to be present at the finale. However, if you are not at the finale, you will automatically lose in the event of a tie. We have had a lot of discussion about making the finale mandatory but finally decided that it would not be fair to deny someone the opportunity to win if they cannot make the finale. I like your idea of a run off. Maybe their is some way to incorporate the runoff rule if both parties are present at the finale. I will see what I can come up with. |
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| Author: | darrell [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
I think we need a class for the 2 seater guys. .when a 2 seater runs the a Class that's a little unfair. .so really a 2 seater has gotta run the b class to have a chance of winning any money. |
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
darrell wrote: I think we need a class for the 2 seater guys. .when a 2 seater runs the a Class that's a little unfair. .so really a 2 seater has gotta run the b class to have a chance of winning any money. I completely understand your concern. We have tried to create classes in the past years and it is almost impossible to group buggies into classes. There are so many different variables that play into a buggies capability (Engine, Seats, Tires, Trans) At the end of the day, we have to refer back to the guiding principles. • The Hill Climb events are intended to be a FUN competition and social event for buggy families In many cases, the 2 seat trail buggies will run B class. However, there are a few purpose built hillclimb buggies with 2 seats that choose to run A class. Keep in mind, this year will be more than just the hill. There will be turns and obstacles before and after the hill. The runs will be much longer. Rather than a 13 - 20 second hill, we will have a 60 second run that will test the drivers skill as well as the buggy capabilities. |
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| Author: | Psycho Alpha [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:53 am ] |
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So if I'm reading rules right...4wd buggies are legal? "Don't believe everything you read on the Internet."--Abraham Lincoln |
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| Author: | frankenbuggy06 [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2015 Hill Climb Series Rules... |
Psycho Alpha wrote: So if I'm reading rules right...4wd buggies are legal? "Don't believe everything you read on the Internet."--Abraham Lincoln Is there a requirement for minium displacement Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk 2 |
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| Author: | NRIbuggys [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:43 am ] |
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How is a 2 seater vs one seater not fair? Just say a one seater 2500 built trans and a 2 seater 2500 built trans.... What's not fair? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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