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No personal experience with adapters, but I wonder if Kennedy sent you an adapted T4 flywheel instead of type1? Do you have a flywheel you know is T1 layin around you could compare it to?

Larry

No offense taken!
Thanks for correction.

I didnt know ring gears were same. I thought t4 might be a hair bigger. The clutch surface is bigger , aint it? 220mm or sumthin?
Just tryin to think of something that could be Railhomie's problem.

Larry

Get a high torx starter from Gary {Turbo Blue] TA DA

rockrockets1 wrote:

Get a high torx starter from Gary {Turbo Blue] TA DA

Larry! What's up, yo?
It had 200mm stamped in the flywheel, so I know it's the right one, regardless.
As for the bellhousing, the starter with the adaptor worked fine when there wasn't a flywheel in it (the starter shaft fit in the bellhousing fine, etc.), so it's not a problem between the adaptor and the bellhousing. And I told Kennedy that I had a 3-rib bellhousing when I ordered the kit.
Sounds like I need to talk to Kennedy and see what they say.

Try it if it don't fix it send it to me and I will give you your money back plus shipping
it will kill two birds with one stone
1. it will fix your problem
2. a high torx starter will last for ever
so it will be the last one you ever buy!

let me guess. the body of the starter was hitting the side of the trans case right over the axle.

so c my idea would have worked
I would not stear you wrong :lol:

Author:	RailHomie [ Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:38 pm ]
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Alright guys, haven't been on here in a while, but here's the deal. We have a chevy V6 with a kennedy adaptor, and a side-shift VW transmission, with a 3-rib transmission bellhousing on it. Then we have a diesel rabbit starter with a kennedy adaptor on it to fit the transmission. Basically, we put the flywheel/ring gear and clutch/pressure plate on the engine then bolted the engine up to the tranny. Then we tried to put the starter in (it went in fine before the flywheel was on the engine) and the starter shaft won't go into it's support hole in the bellhousing. It's almost as if the flywheel is a lttle bit too big and it's hitting the starter gear stop. Any ideas or prior experience with this?

Author:	rockrockets1 [ Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:49 pm ]
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Get a high torx starter from Gary {Turbo Blue] TA DA

Author:	kybuggy1 [ Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:48 am ]
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No personal experience with adapters, but I wonder if Kennedy sent you an adapted T4 flywheel instead of type1? Do you have a flywheel you know is T1 layin around you could compare it to? Larry

Author:	bevans37095 [ Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:02 am ]
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kybuggy1 wrote: No personal experience with adapters, but I wonder if Kennedy sent you an adapted T4 flywheel instead of type1? Do you have a flywheel you know is T1 layin around you could compare it to? Larry No offense Larry, but I believe the ring gears are the same between a type 1 and a type 4. The only difference should be in the bellhousing and input shaft. So you may need to use a 091 or 6 rib bellhousing with the starter and adapter you have for the starter.

Author:	kybuggy1 [ Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:23 am ]
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No offense taken! Thanks for correction. I didnt know ring gears were same. I thought t4 might be a hair bigger. The clutch surface is bigger , aint it? 220mm or sumthin? Just tryin to think of something that could be Railhomie's problem. Larry

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Author:	RailHomie [ Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:45 am ]
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Larry! What's up, yo? It had 200mm stamped in the flywheel, so I know it's the right one, regardless. As for the bellhousing, the starter with the adaptor worked fine when there wasn't a flywheel in it (the starter shaft fit in the bellhousing fine, etc.), so it's not a problem between the adaptor and the bellhousing. And I told Kennedy that I had a 3-rib bellhousing when I ordered the kit. Sounds like I need to talk to Kennedy and see what they say.

Author:	bevans37095 [ Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:11 pm ]
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kybuggy1 wrote: No offense taken! Thanks for correction. I didnt know ring gears were same. I thought t4 might be a hair bigger. The clutch surface is bigger , aint it? 220mm or sumthin? Just tryin to think of something that could be Railhomie's problem. Larry I guess they aren't exactly the same but the same diameter and number of teeth. The type 4 came in 200, 210, 215, & 228mm. I run the 228mm and it holds great. Without seeing it, I don't know what else to guess-- gotta be either flywheel, starter, bellhousing, or adapter.

Author:	RailHomie [ Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:19 pm ]
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I'm personally thinking it's something with the starter. I just sent a lengthy email to Kennedy asking what they thought, so we'll see.

Author:	rockrockets1 [ Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:07 pm ]
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rockrockets1 wrote: Get a high torx starter from Gary {Turbo Blue] TA DA

Author:	RailHomie [ Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:09 pm ]
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rockrockets1 wrote: rockrockets1 wrote: Get a high torx starter from Gary {Turbo Blue] TA DA Read it the first time homeboy. Trying to figure out what's wrong before I go buying shit just to see if it fixes it, kapische?

Author:	rockrockets1 [ Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:15 pm ]
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Try it if it don't fix it send it to me and I will give you your money back plus shipping it will kill two birds with one stone 1. it will fix your problem 2. a high torx starter will last for ever so it will be the last one you ever buy!

Author:	kybuggy1 [ Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:22 pm ]
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RailHomie wrote: Larry! What's up, yo? It had 200mm stamped in the flywheel, so I know it's the right one, regardless. As for the bellhousing, the starter with the adaptor worked fine when there wasn't a flywheel in it (the starter shaft fit in the bellhousing fine, etc.), so it's not a problem between the adaptor and the bellhousing. And I told Kennedy that I had a 3-rib bellhousing when I ordered the kit. Sounds like I need to talk to Kennedy and see what they say. Whatsup Pat?! Get that thing done, I figured by now you'd be rollin with me,Koko n Yankee to D&K sometimes! We found a nice little spot only a couple miles from the house with some STEEP stuff for test n tune. Only 50 acres, but its straight up right off the trailer and we got permission! You need to check it out. Good luck with your starter . Keep us posted. Larry

Author:	RailHomie [ Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:28 pm ]
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rockrockets1 wrote: Try it if it don't fix it send it to me and I will give you your money back plus shipping it will kill two birds with one stone 1. it will fix your problem 2. a high torx starter will last for ever so it will be the last one you ever buy! Okay, well I'm gonna see what kennedy has to say (it could be an easy fix that I'm not seeing), but then I might take you up on that. Thanks. Larry, dude, you have no idea. We haven't worked on this thing in almost a year probably, lol. We finally got it moved down to the new workshop, so the fun can begin. We either need a new front beam, or we're gonna try to bend the one we have back straight. That's the only thing keeping it from being a roller. Also, that's awesome there's a place close, but this beast isn't going to be much of a hillclimber I'm afraid. It's got too much ass weight! Hopefully we can get our asses in gear and get it going by the end of summer. School is for real kicking my ass though.

Author:	instigator [ Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:29 pm ]
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is that a self supported bendix starter? or is it not engaging the flywheel? or just want go in now?

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Author:	RailHomie [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:04 am ]
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Thanks for all the help guys! We actually figured it out. I just had to grind a little bit more off the transmission (sounds bad, I know) to get the starter to line up better. It's in there now and I'm getting the wiring harness ready to fire up the 3.4 V6! Freaking excited. I hope we're riding it this summer!

Author:	kybuggy1 [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:16 am ]
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Glad you figured it out!!

Author:	instigator [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:29 am ]
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let me guess. the body of the starter was hitting the side of the trans case right over the axle.

Author:	RailHomie [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:09 pm ]
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instigator wrote: let me guess. the body of the starter was hitting the side of the trans case right over the axle. Yes sir! Why didn't you tell me before? Just jokin, haha. I didn't think that's what it was because I was able to get it in before without issue, but I guess the addition of the flywheel changed something.

Author:	instigator [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:32 pm ]
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i was getting to it. had to figure out what i was looking at first. its just a little bigger around.

Author:	rockrockets1 [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:56 pm ]
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so c my idea would have worked I would not stear you wrong

Author:	RailHomie [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:59 pm ]
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rockrockets1 wrote: so c my idea would have worked I would not stear you wrong Yeah, but then I would have just been oblivious of the fact that I spent $150-$250 more dollars than I needed to (if I even had that much to start with), hah.

Author:	rockrockets1 [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:00 pm ]
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C YOUR POINT

Author:	RailHomie [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:18 pm ]
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I don't believe you.