you can do anything with a torch and welder
lol i think you can rotate them it should have a splind shaft the arm is on just take it off and rotate it then slide it back on......
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| Author: | fortydegnorth [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
How does the hydraulic slave cylinder mount on a mid shift 091? I have seem pictures where the shift arm, or whatever its called, is more horizontal than vertical like it would be on the other transmissions. Am I seeing this wrong? Can the arm and spring be rotated up? |
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| Author: | Griffin [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
I'll take you a picture in a few minutes. Do you have the brackets? John |
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| Author: | tanner2803 [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
you can do anything with a torch and welder lol i think you can rotate them it should have a splind shaft the arm is on just take it off and rotate it then slide it back on...... |
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| Author: | fortydegnorth [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
I don't even have the transmission but would like to set up the frame for future use of the shift linkage. I know the frame has nothing to do with the slave cylinder but thought I would ask anyway. I was just curious after seeing pictures, it looked a little different than an older 091. |
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| Author: | Griffin [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
Heres a couple.   
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| Author: | fortydegnorth [ Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
Thanks that helps to see it a lot better.  Has anyone used a CNC style slave and turned the shift arm to vertical like the older style transmissions? It looks like its held on with a circlip and if the shaft is splined it seems it would be pretty easy. The only reason I ask is the stock slave and mount would interfere with other parts on my frame. 
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| Author: | Firebug [ Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
Hey Griffin,,,give us a shot of the cross shaft..seems the arms could be removed and relocated to mimic a cable pulled "throw out bearing". |
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| Author: | Griffin [ Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
I'll take a pic for you guys tonight if I have a chance. You can take the arm off just like a regular 6 rib. I swapped a bellhousing off of a sideshift that had the hydraulic clutch on my old rail due to breaking the ear off the bellhousing. I can't remember if I swapped the whole cross shaft or just swapped the arm. Either way you can do it without anything custom. John |
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| Author: | bevans37095 [ Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
I use the stock vanagon slave rather than the CNC. I think the stock one is a better design. I believe it has a larger bore, so it requires more pedal travel but very little effort (I love mine). The only problem with using the stock vanagon slave is that it uses an odd size supply line and I had a hard time finding an adapter to a 3/16" brake line. As far as the arms, you cannot rotate the arms, however, you can remove the arm and swap it with one from an older model that aims up. There are only 4 or 5 splines on the shaft and the rest of the shaft is smooth, that is why it cannot be re-positioned on the cross shaft. |
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| Author: | Odyknuck [ Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
I did not have the clearence for the Vanagon slave so I ended up using a CNC slave in the traditional configuration. My bell housing was not in the greatest so I opted to replace it with the standard 091 with the traditional crank arm. Also the vavangon bell housing is beefyer than the 091 so you will have to remove some metal/aluminum from the frame and/or bell housing at the lower stud mounts. |
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| Author: | kendel [ Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
Change the bell housing to the earler style and you can use the cheaper starter plus the old style slave, one of the bosses for the shinny aluminum cylinder mount is not drilled or tapped but its not a big deal |
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| Author: | kendel [ Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
 
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| Author: | Griffin [ Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
You guys don't still want a picture of the cross shaft do you? Kendel, Where did you get your rear tranmission mount? I was going to make my own very similar but if I can buy it off the shelf there's no point in taking the time to make it. Joihn |
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| Author: | fortydegnorth [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
Well I just bought a mid shift transmission, it should be here by early next week. I would like to still use the CNC slave I have because its already plumbed and ready to go. Now I need either just the arm for a cable pull style or the whole cross shaft, does anyone have one they would like to sell? I would also consider the entire bellhousing but prefer 091 so I don't have to cut down the input shaft and it will just bolt in. I have one on my 091 now but I don't want to salvage parts from it since it will likely be sold. Anyone interested in a nose shift 091? |
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| Author: | bevans37095 [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
fortydegnorth wrote: I would also consider the entire bellhousing but prefer 091 so I don't have to cut down the input shaft and it will just bolt in You will still need to cut down the input shaft if mating any 091 or later tranny to a type 1 motor. If it was mated to a type IV or watercooled motor, the input shaft will be too long no matter what bell housing you use. |
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| Author: | fortydegnorth [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
Its going on a Ford 2.3, well its actually a 2.5 now but that doesn't change anything. |
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| Author: | bevans37095 [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
fortydegnorth wrote: Its going on a Ford 2.3, well its actually a 2.5 now but that doesn't change anything. I think all of the bell housings are the same length except the part where the starter mounts, so it shouldn't matter unless you already have a starter for the 091 that you want to use. Otherwise the input shaft will extend the same distance through the bellhousing on which ever one you choose (unless you change the input shaft). Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. |
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| Author: | fortydegnorth [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
I have a starter for both 091 and 002 so I guess it wouldn't matter as long as its not the early 002 without the two mounting ears on top of the bellhousing. I use the "ears" as an upper mount to the frame. |
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| Author: | kendel [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
Griffin wrote: You guys don't still want a picture of the cross shaft do you? Kendel, Where did you get your rear tranmission mount? I was going to make my own very similar but if I can buy it off the shelf there's no point in taking the time to make it. Joihn That is a mckenzies 10 degree mount i modified a bit to put my washerboxer trans onto my swwingaxle frame horns. |
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| Author: | turboblue [ Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mid shift and slave cylinder? |
bevans37095 wrote: fortydegnorth wrote: I would also consider the entire bellhousing but prefer 091 so I don't have to cut down the input shaft and it will just bolt in You will still need to cut down the input shaft if mating any 091 or later tranny to a type 1 motor. If it was mated to a type IV or watercooled motor, the input shaft will be too long no matter what bell housing you use. As long as you use an 091 style bellhousing with the 091 starter (SR87 Bosch) it will all bolt up and work on a T-1 engine. Or in this case the Ford as long as all the dimensions remain the same as a Beetle engine. |
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