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| Author: | fortydegnorth [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
My dad's buggy came with the Weddle linkage and after trying to fine tune my linkage I decided I wanted to simplify it by making a Weddle style too. I had the splined piece from a sideshift already and I figured the bushing could just be a steering bushing. I ordered up a stainless steering support with the bronze bushings in it. I already had a bunch of .75" o.d heavy wall tubing that I used for my steering shaft. I made some patterns from my dad's linkage and pulled out the plasma cutter. I had an older 1/2" impact swivel laying on the bench and decided to use it for the swivel arm. Since these pics were taken I drove out the pin in the swivel and beveled the lower ball section down a little with a grinder to get it more throw. I haven't had time to get it dialed in yet but so far it's working pretty good. I'm having trouble getting second gear but I think I just need to adjust the shaft a little more. Hopefully I'll have it dialed in by next week. Seems smooth so far. ![]() ![]()
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| Author: | davehix [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
Nice job!!!! |
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| Author: | kendel [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
I like it well enough but if i knock something off i try to do it my way?
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| Author: | MadMike [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
1000 ways to skin a cat and 1000 ways to wok a dog. Stealing someone's design doesn't take any brains. Impress people by doing something we haven't seen before. |
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| Author: | fortydegnorth [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
I couldn't care less who invented it, I just didn't want to spend $300. I have $30 in it and I can go play, that's all I care about. |
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| Author: | Red Barron [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
I concur with Forty on this one, why reinvent the linkage when you can build a better less costly mouse trap (linkage in this case) |
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| Author: | MadMike [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
Then do your selves a favor, don't design anything original. Don't think "out of the box" and show others what you have because some SOB will come along and steal it. |
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| Author: | Red Barron [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
They already have Mike and I know Weddle doesn't use a swivel socket so he changed it enough to avoid a patent infringement. I just wish I had the tools you have I could do some neat stuff it sucks renting with no real garage space. |
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| Author: | MadMike [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
There are no patent issues as long as you don't build it and then sell it. I have 3 items on my car that were derived from someone else. The difference is I asked permission from the guy who designed two of them, my front beam and my rear trailing arms. In fact he gave me the dimensions on some of the key items necessary to build both of them. If I could have found who originally designed the single seat shifter, I would of asked for permission from him. This is the reason I will not "share" anything here anymore and if I build something for someone else I insist they not advertise it as well. |
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| Author: | davehix [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
Sometime its just easier to use what works. Some people don't have time to sit down and design something or a complete machine shop . I myself have had 3 different side shift set ups and this design works to good not to use it. I would rather ride on my time off than set around scratching my head trying to figure something else out when you can use some idea that is proven. |
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| Author: | davehix [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
MadMike wrote: Then do your selves a favor, don't design anything original. Don't think "out of the box" and show others what you have because some SOB will come along and steal it.
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| Author: | kendel [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
Weedle got no money from either of us we wernt going to be customers anyway. But I am not reselling parts to others so I am not taking their buisness. Did you get 2nd figured out? I ended up doing a heim shifter. |
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| Author: | fortydegnorth [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
kendel wrote: Weedle got no money from either of us we wernt going to be customers anyway. But I am not reselling parts to others so I am not taking their buisness. Did you get 2nd figured out? I ended up doing a heim shifter. I haven't had time to dial it in yet. I have a heim joint sitting here just in case this doesn't work out. I really like the heim idea but at the time I had plans for the heim joint and the swivel looked like a good fit. I hope to have a rain day soon so I can go adjust it and button this fix up. |
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| Author: | kendel [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
the empi shifter i had was ship and the stock style parts were iffy soo i did a heim shifter using my leftover parts from last time (too much $ in trans to question gear engagement) |
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| Author: | kendel [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
MadMike wrote: 1000 ways to skin a cat and 1000 ways to wok a dog. Stealing someone's design doesn't take any brains. Impress people by doing something we haven't seen before. did you spend time in Asia Mike |
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| Author: | MadMike [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
No, that was just a play on words. |
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| Author: | aboone993 [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
Nice ! a penny saved is a penny earned ! good job |
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| Author: | fortydegnorth [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
kendel wrote: I just noticed your wrench on the bleeder of your slave cylinder. Hopefully you didn't lose a wrench, or maybe the pic was taking while you were bleeding it. Just letting you know. |
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| Author: | Orangecrusher [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
Excuse my ignorance but I'm curious. Does the shift lever on these sideshifts keep rotating around a pivot for every gear? Or is it more like a motorcycle gear box where the lever just needs a jerk one way or the other and you have to count thru the gears like 5 up 1 down? It looks cool, I wish I had one just so could make that cool linkage! |
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| Author: | fortydegnorth [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
It goes forward and backwards and in and out. Just like a nose cone shift, but on the side. |
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| Author: | kendel [ Sat May 18, 2013 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
[img ][/img]I did not "copy" this its original! |
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| Author: | kendel [ Sat May 18, 2013 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
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| Author: | Sandbar Norm [ Mon May 20, 2013 12:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
Thats looks good. Have you used it yet? How does it feel or work? Norm |
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| Author: | Odyknuck [ Mon May 20, 2013 12:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
How does the shifter deal with reverse? |
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| Author: | kendel [ Mon May 20, 2013 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Side shift linkage- My version of the Weddle |
you put it in the gear you want. no guessing. its in or not, reverse is in it own hole and you learn it that's easy. now first u gotta look and try @ first then it easy too |
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