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Author: | kymtnman [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:49 am ] |
Post subject: | trans identificaion help |
i was surfing here awhile back & found a post with pics & info on all bug & bus trans. now i cant find it. can some one please repost it. |
Author: | davidk [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: trans identificaion help |
I hope this helps you out some http://vw.zenseeker.net/Transaxle.htm Stock VW Transmissions Type I (Sedan (Beetle or Bug) or Karmann Ghia) & III 6v Swing Axle Trans 12v Swing Axle Trans Early IRS Trans ('69 - 70) 4.12 R&P Late IRS Trans ('71 - 72) 3.88 R&P; 72 is a transitional year, use with 38 tooth 1st gear; two side covers Late IRS Trans ('73 - Later) includes late 72, use with a 34 tooth 1st gear; one side cover; 002 Bus type gears Type II (Transporter, Pick-up, Crew Cab, or Bus) 6v Swing Trans Early Bus 12v Swing Trans Early Bus Early 68 002 IRS Bus 3 Rib; narrow case and early gearset design; easy to recognize because it has acorn nuts around the drive flanges; weak transmission; limited parts availability; prior to 11/68 '68 - 70 002 IRS Bus Trans 3 Rib; called a 113 type Bus trans; starting 11/68 '71 only 002 IRS Bus 3 Rib; later 1971+ transmissions use a guide around the impeller shaft to align the throw-out bearing and therefore require a different pressure plate than earlier 71 and before transmissions. '72 - 74 002 IRS Bus 3 Rib 1973-75 automatic 4.45:1 final-drive ratio '74-75 002 IRS Bus Trans 5 Rib; aka pyramid case '76 - 79 091 IRS Bus Trans 6 Rib; 4.56 R&P; considered to be the strongest stock VW transmission '80 - 82 091 Vanagon Aircoolled engine; Side Shift Vanagons with the T4 engine; Essentially the same as the Bus 091 and can be converted to nose shift '83 - Later Vanagon Waterboxer engine; Mid Shift Vanagons; cannot be converted to nose shift 094 Synchro 4x4 Rare in USA Three-Rib Transmission - Early style of Type II Bus transmission used from about 1968-’73 - 3 Rib; 5.38 (Also 5.42, but it is pretty rare) R&P; no mounting ears on top of the bellhousing Five-Rib Transmission - Type II transmission made from 1974-’75 - 5-Ribs; 4.86 R&P A Type I Trans uses the same gearset as the 3 rib and 5 rib Type II trans so they can be built to handle about 160/200HP however they only have a 6" ring gear (its weak link). The Type II Trans is preferred because it has a 8" ring gear. The Type II 6 rib transmission is said to be able to handle 300 horsepower. The Type I Trans can be used for mid engine applications by flipping the ring gear and the Type II Trans cannot. You can flip the Type II trans upside down for a mid engine configuration, but you will need to make a few modifications for this application to work. Transmission Glossary Term Definition 002 differential The type of differential used in Three- and Five-rib Bus transmissions. 091 differential Considered heavier and stronger than a 002, this differential is used in late style Type II transmissions from 1976. Anti Shocker Device used to slow the travel of the clutch arm/pressure plate and to take the shock off of a transmission in drag race type starts. Ball Bearings Round bearings used in various places in VW transmissions. Cone Washer Concave washer used on mainshaft on early Type I transmissions and Three-rib Type II transmissions. Coupler Gear that couples the input shaft and mainshaft together in all VW transmissions. Also has external teeth to drive the reverse idler shaft. CV bells Output final drive flanges for constant velocity joints CV joint Constant velocity joint (see sidebar) Detent balls Used to hold shift rails in position End Gears Sometimes called axle gears, these are the outer gears in the differential. Five-Rib Transmission Type II transmission made from 1974-’75 Flanges See CV bells Four-Bolt Housing Early type of transmission case used in Type I transmissions. Gear Carrier Housing Sometimes called intermediate housing. This is the next section of a VW transmission behind the nose cone. Gear Ratios Driven gear divided by drive gear. Example: First gear is 10 tooth drive and 38 driven. Divide 38 by 10 to equal 3.80 Gear Selector The main shift fork some times called a “hockey stick.” Guide Tube Tube for the throw-out bearing to ride on. Used in various VW transmissions Hydraulic Slave Cylinders Clutch actuating cylinder used with a clutch master cylinder to release the clutch and pressure plate Input Shaft Splined shaft that the center of the clutch disc rides on and is the first input shaft of a VW transmission Input Shaft Coupler Gear See Coupler Gear Intermediate Housing See Gear Carrier Housing IRS Independent Rear Suspension The type of suspension and transmission VW used from 1970 up. Before that VW used a Swingaxle suspension and transmission. Mainshaft Top shaft in a VW transmission. Contains half of the 1st-4th gearset. Needle Bearings Long small bearings used in various places in VW transmissions. Nosecone The front or first section of a VW transmission which contains the main shift fork, sometimes called a “hockey stick” Operating Sleeves Round rings with teeth on the inside and are what is shifted when you go into any forward gears. One-Ringed Side Cover A IRS transmission with one ring cast into the outside of the differential cover. One-Sided Case AIRS transmission case that only has one unboltable side cover. The early ones had two. Output Flanges See CV bells Output Splines The splines that the CV bells go onto. Pinion One half of a gearset. The “ring” gear is the other half. This is the final drive of a VW transmission. Pinion Depth Distance of the pinion into the ring gear in the final drive section. Pinion Shaft Bottom shaft in a VW transmission. Contains the other half of the gearset, plus the pinion gear for the final drive. Pressure Plate Mechanism that applies force to the clutch disc and flywheel to turn the input shaft of a transmission Reduction Gearbox Old-style Bus transmission that further reduced the final drive by having another set of gears next to the wheels. These outer sets of gears were in housings and called “gear reduction” boxes. Reverse Gear Holder Setup The fork that supports the reverse idler gear. Rhino Case Aftermarket braced Type I VW transmission case. Ring and Pinion Final drive set of gears used to lower the overall ratio of a transmission. Six-Rib Transmission Later style VW Type II transmission from 1976 Snap Rings Used to keep bearings and gears from coming off of shafts Spider Gears The small set of gears in differential. They look somewhat like a spider, hence the name. Swingaxle Early type of suspension and transaxle VW used. Until about 1969 Three-Rib Transmission Early style of Type II Bus transmission used from about 1968-’73 Throwout Bearing Bearing that pushes in the pressure plate. Transaxle Term used for transmission and rear axle as one unit. Two-Ringed Side Cover IRS transmission side cover that has two rings cast into it. Two-Sided Case VW transmission Type I case that has two unboltable side covers. (all swingaxles and IRS up to 1973). VW Transmission Codes Type 1, 181 and 3w Code Engine Mate Final Drive Model AA 1200 4.375 From Chassis Number 0981810 AB 1300 4.375 Up to 1970 AC 1500 4.125 On some 1300 from 1971 AD 1200 4.375 Limited Slip Diff. (LSD) AE 1300 4.375 With LSD AF 1500 4.125 LSD to 1970 AG 1200 4.375 Used on Type 147 AH 1500 4.125 IRS from 1969 1600 4.125 1970-’71 AK 1500 3.875 Type 181 to 1970 1600 3.875 Type 181 from 1971 AL 1500 3.875 Type 181 with LSD to 1970 1600 3.875 Type 181 with IRS and LSD from 1971 AM 1300 4.375 Sedan and Vert from 1971 AN 1600 3.875 KG with IRS from 1971 AO 1300 3.875 KG from 1971 AP 1300 4.375 LSD from 1970-’71 AQ 1600 4.125 LSD from 1971-1972 AR 1600 3.875 KG with LSD from 1971 AS 1600 3.875 Type I from 1973 AT 1600 3.875 Type 1303 and Verts from 1973 AU 1600 3.875 Type 1303 with LSD from 1973 BA 1300/1500 4.375 Auto-stick from 1969-’70 BC 1300/1500 4.375 Auto-stick from 1969-’70 with LSD BE 1600 4.125 Auto-stick from 1971-’72 BF 1600 4.125 Auto-stick from 1971-’72 with LSD BG 1300 4.125 KG with auto-stick from 1971 BH 1300 4.125 KG with auto-stick from 1971 with LSD BJ 1300 4.375 Auto-stick from 1971 BK 1300 4.375 Auto-stick from 1971 with LSD DA 1500/1600 4.125 Type III SA to 1968 DB 1500/1600 4.125 Type III SA to 1968 with LSD DC 1500/1600 4.125 Type III IRS from 1969 DD 1500/1600 4.125 Type III IRS from 1969 with LSD Type 2 unless otherwise stated. Codes Model Final Drive Notes AA 1200 4.375 From Chassis No 0 981 810 AB 1300 4.375 Up to 8/70 AC 1500 4.125 also some 1300 from 8/70 AD 1200 4.375 Limited Slip Differential AE 1300 4.375 Limited Slip Differential AF 1500 4.125 Limited Slip Differential up to 8/70; also some 1300 from 8/70 AG 1200 4.375 Type 147 Fridolin AH 1500 4.125 IRS from 8/68 1600 4.125 8/69 – 8/72 AK 1500 3.875 Type 181 up to 8/70 1600 3.875 Type 181 from 8/70 AL 1500 3.875 Type 181 with LSD up to 8/70 AL 1600 3.875 Type 181 with LSD from 8/70 AM 1300 4.375 Saloon and Cabrio from 8/70 AN 1600 3.875 Karmann Ghia with IRS from 8/70 AO 1600 4.125 Karmann Ghia from 8/70 AP 1300 4.375 LSD from 8/70 AQ 1600 4.125 LSD 8/70 – 8/72 AR 1600 3.875 Karmann Ghia with LSD from 8/70 AS 1600cc 3.875 From 3/72 AT 1600 3.875 1303s and Cabrio from 3/72 AU 1600 3.875 1303s and Cabrio from 3/72 with LSD BA 1300 / 1500 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70 BC 1300 / 1500 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70 with LSD BE 1600 4.125 Semi Automatic from 8/70 – 8/71 BF 1600 4.125 Semi Automatic from 8/70 – 8/71 with LSD BG 1600 4.125 Karmann Ghia Semi Automatic from 8/70 BH 1300 4.125 Karmann Ghia Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD BJ 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70 BK 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD BL 1600 4.125 Semi Auto BK 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD DA 1500 /1600 4.125 Type 3 Swing-axle up to 8/68 DB 1500 /1600 4.125 Type 3 Swing-axle up to 8/68 with LSD DC 1500 /1600 4.125 Type 3 IRS from 8/68 DD 1500 /1600 4.125 Type 3 IRS from 8/68 with IRS |
Author: | Ibanidiot2 [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:12 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: trans identificaion help |
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 8&t=102124 |
Author: | 2800passat [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:23 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: trans identificaion help |
wow! david K. that was alot of good coverage. One other site I use is www.partsemporium.co.uk Over in England they call a trans a gearbox and a vanagon is a type 25. |
Author: | kymtnman [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: trans identificaion help |
thanks the "shoptalk" is the one i was talkin about,but the first one is great also. |
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